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Last edited Mon Mar 19, 2018, 05:51 PM - Edit history (1)
Link to tweet
Breaking: Channel 4 just announced theyre airing another undercover film tomorrow where Cambridge Analytica say they won the election for Donald Trump and describe how. This is a car crash airing live on TV. Journalism matters.
Edited to add the undercover film/documentary that aired today that you can watch right here:
Link to tweet
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)poboy2
(2,078 posts)Perhaps it involves murder or maybe he will name politicians whom they installed?
Roll the tape sir.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)OhNo-Really
(3,985 posts)dchill
(38,626 posts)Well, now.
tinrobot
(10,927 posts)Don't these idiots ever learn?
First rule of Fight Club.
Dustlawyer
(10,499 posts)They wanted new business and felt they had to brag about their results.
Cha
(298,077 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,232 posts)orangecrush
(19,666 posts)isn't this example being followed by American media?
Rachel should be hot tonight!
True Blue American
(17,996 posts)Is really doing that in between laughing his head off.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)cannabis_flower
(3,769 posts)It seems they were working for Ted Cruz!
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210381783
Squinch
(51,090 posts)sunonmars
(8,656 posts)bearsfootball516
(6,378 posts)Not necessarily breaking down how they won it for Trump, but more or less how they do things in general, i.e. blackmail, sending prostitutes, etc.
backtoblue
(11,348 posts)How they used unethical propaganda and psychops to incite violence, isolation, and upheaval around the world. This is big.
rzemanfl
(29,585 posts)Every member of Congress needs to by asked by the FBI "Have you been threatened with blackmail?"
erronis
(15,470 posts)Have the FBI ask each member of congress if anyone has ever approached them and said "I will donate to your campaign if you will do xxx for me."
(Of course some of those donations don't need to be declared on any forms - they are conveniently non-traceable.)
rzemanfl
(29,585 posts)get away with lying.
SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)Mueller hammer....so, tell us more!
SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)very soon reveal the ties between those Repubics (and I'm sure some Dems) who used CA or I should say got used by CA. They will dig up the $ flow in and out and once again we will hear it's all a witch hunt.
I'm now referring to it as a Which Hunt? There are so many!
gibraltar72
(7,518 posts)to buy the 40 pack of microwave popcorn something big was gonna break.
AwakeAtLast
(14,134 posts)Heavy pan, 2 T oil, 2/3 Cup real popcorn (after 3 kernels pop, lid on med-high heat: best popcorn ever and no fear of popcorn lung!
With as much popcorn as we will be eating, it should be the good stuff!
Eyeball_Kid
(7,440 posts)Toss it in the microwave. It will pop without the oil and chemicals. THEN add melted butter and mini-flake nutritional yeast. Cheesy, buttery, and delicious.
AwakeAtLast
(14,134 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,261 posts)triron
(22,031 posts)But I'm told you can see it here
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTrQ7HXWRRxr7OsOtodr2_w
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)News programme at 7pm UK time. No fakery and with a fairness doctrine too. (UK broadcasting law requires fairness). Channel 4 News has a reputation for investigative journalism. While they do cover mainstream news the more mainstream stuff is left to ITV News. Same production company produces ITV News and Channel 4 News.
sheshe2
(84,072 posts)Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)to work for a few hours !
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,564 posts)Earlier thread by MelissaB:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210380218
Post with youtube links by herding cats:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2018002
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,564 posts)rzemanfl
(29,585 posts)Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)Ligyron
(7,645 posts)Glad I stopped doing it.
hedda_foil
(16,379 posts)lancelyons
(988 posts)Last edited Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:04 PM - Edit history (1)
what laws are broken here? I hate to get people riled up but there may not be any laws broken here.
I want to get the POS out of office as well and think the GOP are despicable.
However, using data and crunching data through algorithms does not seem like laws are being broken. It just seems like somebody did a better job.
Sure the data they may have pulled from facebook could be illegal but that doesnt impact trump.
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)interfering in elections, but I wasn't sure whether they were saying they did those things or that some other "they" did those things.
I'm not sure on this.
We should change our election laws to make some of the data crunching, etc. transparent or maybe with regard to some things even more illegal than they are now.
The data crunching as Cambridge Analytical does it was not possible or at least not practical maybe 30 years ago.
Time for new laws on election campaigns.
And transparency, absolute transparency is probably more effective than bans.
Also, when an international corporation is involved in reviewing US voter information and crunching the numbers, we find that our campaign finance laws and other laws prohibiting foreign interference are inadequate.
Also, depending on what happened, there may be more than a breach of contract action involving CA and Facebook. But I am just theorizing. I don't know. That aspect will surely be examined.
We need to look at all our campaign finance regulations and campaign conduct laws. We need to rewrite them.
rzemanfl
(29,585 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,075 posts)... Conspiracy against the United States of America, money laundering, RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations), obstruction of justice, lobbying violations, registration violation, disclosure violations, international sex trafficking violations, possible treason / espionage, lying to the FBI, ....
lancelyons
(988 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,075 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210381657
You still think it is a nothingburger? UK does not.
SunSeeker
(51,811 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,075 posts)SunSeeker
(51,811 posts)Amaryllis
(9,527 posts)we already know Stormy was threatened. These guys stop at nothing.
peggysue2
(10,853 posts)I thought this one was damning as Hell itself. But if they're bragging 'how they won the election for the Trumpster,' we can expect a rollicking good time with details confirmed and a coming from 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
No wonder they've tried so hard to have the videos blocked.
Is this the beginning of a trend? Hope so.
colorado_ufo
(5,743 posts)in the near future!
peggysue2
(10,853 posts)Think we all need a break from the daily assault of craziness. Just lock these suckers up!!
progressoid
(50,021 posts)samnsara
(17,665 posts)MelissaB
(16,420 posts)I have a lot of hope.
Spread it everywhere and inform the public.
nolabels
(13,133 posts)Then again who knows how it plays out
torius
(1,652 posts)the same way, the Electoral College, by the same idiot voters.
mgardener
(1,825 posts)Screaming about this?
Oh wait, lying Ted Cruz hired CA too!
Wonder if any of the other candidates hired them too ?
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)MelissaB
(16,420 posts)B Stieg
(2,410 posts)the same creepy father-daughter pair that bankrolled Steve Bannon!
so this one wraps around Trump...AGAIN!
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,232 posts)backtoblue
(11,348 posts)bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)dalton99a
(81,708 posts)calimary
(81,608 posts)triron
(22,031 posts)Hassler
(3,402 posts)CelticWinter
(1,399 posts)I watched the first and will make sure to watch this one. I'm gonna have to go to the store and buy more popcorn for the week seems like a lot to watch with these and Stormy on sunday, who knows what will pop up next.
Thanks again
Celtic
neohippie
(1,142 posts)There's a lot of moving parts but this thread should be included
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210379333
as well as this
There's a lot of information about CA in this thread I posted in February 2017
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028716802
And more from this threads from this past weekend
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142016046
and of course these ties from Silicon Valley to Russian Mafia
There's a lot of interesting Russian ties to Silcon Valley, Facebook, Digital Skies, Zynga -facebook games, Air BNB, Spotify, Slack, and so much more
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/05/world/yuri-milner-facebook-twitter-russia.html?mtrref=www.google.com&gwh=DA0D674CBF7C2F13611890CAB2434CCE&gwt=pay
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/3286-facebook-are-you-interfacing-with-the-russian-mafia--kgb
Andrey Ternovskiy, one of Russia's wunderkind Internet entrepreneurs, is being courted by venture capitalists the world over. To get access to cash he needn't leave Moscow, but he doesn't want to do business with the billionaire oligarchs tied to the Russian Mafia and Putin's KGB-FSB machine in the Kremlin.
So, earlier this year the 18-year-old founder of Chatroullet, a webcam-based conversation website, came to the United States to meet with investors. Ternovskiy didn't tell anyone his itinerary. Nevertheless, when he arrived in New York, there was a chauffer-driven limo waiting for him, courtesy of Yuri Milner and Digital Sky Technologies (DST), Russia's hottest investment company.
Ternovskiy reportedly has rebuffed DST's efforts, describing them as "harassing and hounding."
Ryan Tate at gawker.com appropriately describes the DST limo episode as "creepy." However, the experience goes beyond "creepy," illustrating the nexus between Russia's "business" community and it's intelligence structures. How did DST know Ternovskiy's flight schedule? There are a number of ways that DST could have gotten that information, nearly all of which would be illegal in any country where the "rule of law" is more than merely an empty slogan. But considering DST's high-level ties to Vladimir Putin's KGB-FSB police-state apparatus, obtaining Ternovskiy's airline itinerary must have been child's play.
The Russian teenager is demonstrating better business sense and greater ethical judgment than American corporations, such as social network behemoth Facebook and Wall Street titan Goldman Sachs. Over the past year, DST has made several large investments in Facebook, and now holds a ten percent share in the company, which boasts more than 500 million users worldwide and continues to grow at a phenomenal rate.
DST, which has also invested heavily in Zynga, the online social network game developer (FarmVille, FrontierVille, Mafia Wars [above], etc.), and Groupon, a deal-of-the-day website, has a billion dollars to invest in Internet companies and, reportedly, is also looking at buying into Twitter.
https://www.wired.com/2011/10/mf_milner/
Ties to Kushner
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/05/russia-funded-facebook-twitter-investments-kushner-investor
he investments were made through a Russian technology magnate, Yuri Milner, who also holds a stake in a company co-owned by Kushner, Donald Trumps son-in-law and senior White House adviser.
The discovery is likely to stir concerns over Russian influence in US politics and the role played by social media in last years presidential election. It may also raise new questions for the social media companies and for Kushner.
Alexander Vershbow, who was a US ambassador to Russia under George W Bush and to Nato under Bill Clinton, said the Russian state institutions were frequently used as tools for Putins pet political projects.
Vershbow said the findings were concerning in light of efforts by Moscow to disrupt US democracy and public debate. There clearly was a wider plan, despite Putins protestations to the contrary, he said.
The investments are detailed in the Paradise Papers, a trove of millions of leaked documents reviewed by the Guardian, the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ) and other partners, along with other previously unreported filings.
Facebook and Twitter were not made aware that funding for the investments came from the state-controlled VTB Bank and a financial arm of the state oil and gas firm Gazprom, according to Milner.
The files show that in 2011, VTB funded a $191m investment in Twitter. About the same time, Gazprom Investholding financed an opaque offshore company, which in turn funded a vehicle that held $1bn-worth of Facebook shares.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Milner
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-poligarchs-oligarchs-and-stooges-of-the-paradise-papers
The Paradise Papers have uncovered some of the stooges and their connections to oligarchs. One example is Yuri Milner, a Wharton-educated Russian businessman who once worked for the oil tycoon Mikhail Khodorkovsky, an oligarch who rejected the mafia-state bargain and lost his fortune, spent ten years in prison, and now lives in exile. Milner started making money through Russian tech investments in the aughts, and by 2009 he was investing in American high-tech companies. He has since become a Silicon Valley fixture and a bit of a science-and-technology celebrity (he founded the Breakthrough Prizes, which offer the biggest cash payout of any science prize in the world). The Paradise Papers expose Milner as a stooge of Alisher Usmanov, an oligarch who has enjoyed most-favored status under Putin. Some of the money for Milners investments in Facebook came from Gazprom Investholding, which is the finance arm of the Russian state gas monopoly, Gazprom; at the time, Usmanov ran Gazprom Investholding.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,075 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)His campaign staff likely knew about how he just blurts shit out, so they didn't loop him in - to give him plausible deniability.
And I have no idea if the law has caught up to the technology, so what would the charges be? They can say that they were just really good at "redirecting consumer behavior," like they advertised on their website. His base will just see all this information as irrelevant.
My money's on him going down on money laundering.
Clarity2
(1,009 posts)implicate Trump directly (as they say, the politician is the puppet) but it does say theyre directed by their campaign on what to do. Campaign staff could be implicated in this, but the bigger picture which may be separate, maybe not, is them all meeting with the russians...over and over. And hiding that fact. And we sure as hell know Trump had knowledge. Like even jr. wouldnt withold that info from his father in private conversations.
And yeah, theres also money laundering and all that criminal stuff on the side.
triron
(22,031 posts)lpbk2713
(42,775 posts)They're making Mueller's job easier.