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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFranklin Delano Roosevelt might have had a crystal ball
How did he know?
hueymahl
(2,449 posts)I hope we as a party can continue to uphold his ideals.
Boomerproud
(7,943 posts)Saved this country from a coup. Roosevelt was considered a traitor to his class.
erronis
(15,185 posts)He was supposedly brought into a plot to overthrow the government but he instead revealed it. The committee that was set up to hear his secret testimony was similar to the McCarthy commie hunts - predecessors of dump's attack on the FBI and gov't.
Boomerproud
(7,943 posts)N/t.
erronis
(15,185 posts)If you had written it as "He and Gen Smedley Butler were the target of such men" it would have meant what you were implying.
Otherwise "such men and Gen. Smedley Butler" are considered a noun phrase and are taken together. (Jeez, it's been 60+ years and I [think] I remember things like "noun phrases".)
Anyway, points taken and agreed upon. (win-win)
gabeana
(3,166 posts)brought the information of the coup to Roosevelt
mopinko
(70,024 posts)since the beginning of time, there have always been pigs and scammers.
Wounded Bear
(58,605 posts)What is happening now in the US happened in Italy, Spain, Germany and all over the Baltics back in the 30/40's.
One could argue (and some have) that Roosevelt saved American capitalism from Fascism back then.
This is just the next round. Russia has already fallen, Eastern Europe is in danger again. We're there again.
FakeNoose
(32,599 posts)...and I think that same fear was growing here in the US during that time.
But we can't say that TODAY. Something else is fueling this conservative cycle, I believe it's a different kind of fear. And yes certainly, a few greedy, extremely wealthy people are taking advantage of it, and "feathering their nests."
Wounded Bear
(58,605 posts)Conservatives know that the demographic clock is ticking. The country is getting less white and less Christian. The Repub base is melting away.
They are fighting to retain power as a minority ruling class. Unfortunately, there are millions out there that hear that and react with fear and anger.
catrose
(5,061 posts)And he won--4 terms and the establishment of many progressive programs, many of those still in operation today.
RobertDevereaux
(1,847 posts)...who coaxed FDR even further in progressive directions.
An extraordinary woman and our finest First lady!
erronis
(15,185 posts)on both of them.
I can think of a couple of other strong Democratic women (well more than a couple) who have been strong and persevered even in the face of vile/bile-spouting politicians and "news" media. I hope we can honor all of them.
Bleacher Creature
(11,254 posts)This stuff has been going on all through human history. It's far from new.
sweetroxie
(776 posts)murielm99
(30,717 posts)He grew up with these people.
blue-wave
(4,345 posts)Let's not forget that these selfish men tried to overthrow Roosevelt in a coup, either making him a puppet or removing him completely from office.
http://www.eclectica.org/v1n1/reviews/wharton_plot.html
Roosevelt knew about these men because he was surrounded by them his whole life. He grew up in privilege, but thank God he was able to see through those who wanted America only for themselves. Roosevelt saved America and he saved, although those selfish men then and today won't admit, capitalism from itself.
Ligyron
(7,622 posts)Ones with a conscience?
Few and far between nowadays...
True Blue American
(17,981 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,064 posts)liberalhistorian
(20,814 posts)most average Americans because he grew up with, and was in the same class as, the very people who would gladly do this. He knew their bottomless selfishness and greed and that they didn't care about the effects on millions of Americans, and the country as a whole, as long as it benefitted them. Many members of his own family, especially on his mother's side, fit this description. Hence the title of a famous biography of him, "Traitor to his Class".