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MinneapolisMatt

(1,550 posts)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:47 AM Jul 2012

The Oympics

I know I share many of similar opinions about how the Olympics are too corporate, commercial, etc.

But I also want to share a small story. I was a gymnast who trained for many years, and the Olympics was always my goal. I never made it, and that was very hard for me.

But as an adult, I've gotten to know many of the athletes, and I'm so proud of them for being on this year's teams. They are truly dedicated people, especially being in gymnastics where you don't make any money.

One neat story is Gabby Douglas, who could win the gold medal this year. She's a bright light in our sport, and I adore her:

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Anyway, sometimes the best athletes are the quiet ones.

Let's hope we have a safe and joyous Olympics.
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The Oympics (Original Post) MinneapolisMatt Jul 2012 OP
My sport was swimming. ananda Jul 2012 #1
Isn't it though? MinneapolisMatt Jul 2012 #2
One of the very best things about the Olympics MineralMan Jul 2012 #3
Wow! What a great little video. livvy Jul 2012 #4
She is amazing! GoCubsGo Jul 2012 #5
Wonderful video, very moving... Spazito Jul 2012 #6
Thank you for sharing. Skinner Jul 2012 #7
All I can say is "Wow!" Thank you for posting this video. NBachers Jul 2012 #8
The atheletes are what the Olympics is really all about... jimlup Jul 2012 #9
I always enjoy gymnastics evilhime Jul 2012 #10
K/R moondust Jul 2012 #11
my sport is dressage magical thyme Jul 2012 #12
I'm so glad you posted. It's so easy to snark when you don't know. nolabear Jul 2012 #13
the Romney's were involved in horse abuse, but tangential to dressage magical thyme Jul 2012 #14
I heard that story. In the Old West they'd have been hung. nolabear Jul 2012 #17
works for me! magical thyme Jul 2012 #20
What a wonderful post! femmocrat Jul 2012 #22
I 've learned a lot from your posts Mopar151 Jul 2012 #24
In my dental school class was a gymnast who was an alternate PCIntern Jul 2012 #15
Gymnastics was my sport as well. susanna Jul 2012 #16
I like the Olympics... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2012 #18
Yup... I'm rooting for the Flying Squirrel TahitiNut Jul 2012 #19
My wife is a former gymnast and her body reminds her from time to time. It took until her alfredo Jul 2012 #21
I'm enjoying them, no matter what it's about the individual atheletes. nt Raine Jul 2012 #23
she's a delight to watch...what a sweetheart!!!!! spanone Jul 2012 #25
Hi five fellow gymnast. tridim Jul 2012 #26
Gabby has such a beautiful smile tammywammy Jul 2012 #27
I was sure this was a thread about Romney. noamnety Jul 2012 #28

ananda

(28,891 posts)
1. My sport was swimming.
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:49 AM
Jul 2012

I may never have been Olympic caliber, but
I loved the sport and the Olympics; and I
remember being at the same swim meets
with Olympics gold medal winners. It was
such a romantic dream.

MinneapolisMatt

(1,550 posts)
2. Isn't it though?
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:54 AM
Jul 2012

Oh I remember as a kid, I had dreams of saving the country LOL by winning gymnastics medals! Back when we still had cold war rivals...I'd beat the Soviets! Now I'm friends with them and we laugh!

MineralMan

(146,343 posts)
3. One of the very best things about the Olympics
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:57 AM
Jul 2012

is that it inspires people like you to aspire to high achievement. If for no other reason, the Olympics are a good thing.

livvy

(6,948 posts)
4. Wow! What a great little video.
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:58 AM
Jul 2012

And what a great supportive family for this talented young lady. May all their dreams come true! Thanks for sharing!

GoCubsGo

(32,099 posts)
5. She is amazing!
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 10:13 AM
Jul 2012

I'm generally not a big gymnastics fan, as the network always seems to hype it and the female gymnasts at the expense of many of the other sports and athletes, even the male gymnasts. But, I happened to catch the Olympic trials, and she was so much fun to watch. I still can't get over how high she flies, regardless of what apparatus she is on. I hope she comes home with at least one gold medal, although I suspect she'll earn more than that. She is that good.

Spazito

(50,551 posts)
6. Wonderful video, very moving...
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 10:15 AM
Jul 2012

Gymnastics is really the one sport in the Summer Olympics I love to watch, other than that I prefer the Winter Olympics.

I will certainly be watching Gabby!

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
7. Thank you for sharing.
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 10:18 AM
Jul 2012

I am not much of a sports fan, but I love the Olympics. Even if you didn't make it to the Olympics, I think it's really cool that you had that goal and tried to do it.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
9. The atheletes are what the Olympics is really all about...
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:21 AM
Jul 2012

It does seem to be lost in the commercialism and big money but if we remember what it is really all about it is pretty cool!

evilhime

(326 posts)
10. I always enjoy gymnastics
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 12:23 PM
Jul 2012

but this year I'm going to really be in it to route for this girl! She is fabulous!!!

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
12. my sport is dressage
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 03:14 PM
Jul 2012

It's been very painful to read the mocking posts here, along with the blatant lies claiming that dressage is horse abuse and that it is "elitist." Many middle class people are involved in dressage (including progressive democrats), and have been since the early days. Many of our Olympic dressage team members, along with combined training and jumping riders, grew up working at barns for a chance to ride, spending hours mucking out stalls and cleaning tack in exchange for lessons. One of our top riders, Debbie McDonald, started out working to ride. She earned the money to buy her first pony and earned the money to pay board for that pony and for her lessons.

The reason for the clothes in competition is because originally, Olympic competition was pretty much owned by the military, and military uniforms were used. When cavalries replaced horses with tanks and humvees, it fell to the civilian population to keep the core of horse training, dressage, alive all the way through to the upper levels in international competition. In looking for something formal to wear for competition that emphasized the elegance of a fully trained horse and rider, they settled on the top hat and tails. The white gloves serve a purpose, as they emphasize any extraneous movement of the hands for judges to see and score down.

A lot of people seem to suffer "pony envy." I know that many of my peers did. However, I never saw any of them mucking out or working to ride (except my best friend across the street who worked and rode with me). When push came to shove, they weren't willing to make the sacrifices. Only to mooch rides because they luuuuv horsies. Even now, some of my neighbors have been nasty about it, but then mock me because I don't have cable or satellite tv, or high speed internet. Guess what -- all those things would pay for the hay for a horse in these parts. They could have a pony if they really wanted to; they just aren't willing to make the sacrifices or do the work. But they still expect to mooch rides.

I first heard of dressage in 1964 when Walt Disney made the movie The Miracle of the White Stallions, the story of how General Patton saved the Spanish Riding School horses from the Nazis in WW2.

I was a middle class kid and yes, we had a family hand-me-down "pony," a free 20-something retired polo pony that we kept in our back yard. I was a self-taught rider at first. Too small to reach our pony's back with the saddle, I learned to ride bareback with a halter and lead shank. Sometimes not even that. I would climb onto her back from a boulder or fence and gallop around with no "controls" at all.

At 12, I stumbled across a dressage book on sale in a regular department store book section. I begged my parents to spring $8 for the dressage classic, Horsemanship by Waldemar Seunig.

At 14, I cleaned tack at a nearby show barn, and in exchange was "given" 6 young thoroughbreds straight off the racetrack to re-school into show hunters. My friends there each also had a tb to re-school. I would help them with theirs, as well as ride my own after school, so I sat on up to 10 horses/day, from 4pm until 8 or so. I'd fix my own dinner late in the evening and then do homework until 11pm or so.

At 16, I was lucky enough to get my first formal instruction with a top combined training rider. I spent 2 years riding with Lockie Richards, the 2nd year at the American Dressage Institute. Back then the 1%ers were not greedy and truly believed in the art of dressage. The founder of ADI allowed students to ride her string of top dressage horses. I ultimately rode all of them, from the 6 year old in early training to her 15 year old actively performing and competing Grand Prix horse (Goldlack, who appears on the cover of Lockie's book, Dressage: Begin the Right Way) and her 20 year old semi-retired Grand Prix horse.

It was at this time that Cl. Hans Handler, Director of the Spanish Riding School visited and, along with 3 of Lockie's other top students, we had a lesson with Cl. Handler observing. Lockie was invited to train at the Spanish Riding School and spent a couple years there, before returning to the US and then New Zealand, where he founded the Kiwis and brought them to international prominence. 3-time Olympic gold medalist Mark Todd got his foundation from Lockie.

I gave up my Olympic dream due to financial and personal issues. It is one thing for your parents to remain neutral; it is another for them to actively and deliberately sabotage any chance you have of success. I saw early on that most riders were heavily subsidized for many years before success. I had no such support, in fact the opposite, so I went to work in an office and my riding time became limited. That didn't stop me from rescuing an arabian from neglect and starvation, re-habbing him, and training him from scratch through Prix St. Georges and Intermediare movements and figures.

nolabear

(42,001 posts)
13. I'm so glad you posted. It's so easy to snark when you don't know.
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 03:21 PM
Jul 2012

I suspect the dressage snark, unless you believe the abuse charges just come from rage at Romney (and I have a friend who used to have Saddlebreds and I saw a lot of training and no abuse, just some very well trained, well loved horses who were workers just as working dogs are workers). It's a target for bullying the bully, iykwim.

Your experiences sound exquisite. I wish I had the training, youth and wherewithall to ride, but I do enjoy watching.

I still hate Romney, though (grin).

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
14. the Romney's were involved in horse abuse, but tangential to dressage
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 03:32 PM
Jul 2012

in that it could have been any equine discipline.

One of Ann's horses, Super Hit, became unsound. In the old days, and even now, an unsound horse would be retired or semi-retired, only doing as much as was comfortable for him or her, be it trail horse or pasture companion.

Ann's horse was instead drugged up and sold to an unsuspecting client of Ann's trainer, Jan Ebeling, for $125K. The buyer sued for fraud. Toxicology tests on the horse's blood sample (taken during the pre-purchase exam to be held frozen in case of a disput) showed 4 surgery-level sedatives in his system. Only 2 of the drugs were honestly accounted for (used and listed by the attending vet for x-rays). Ultimately, Ann was dropped from the suit and Ebeling settled out of court.

nolabear

(42,001 posts)
17. I heard that story. In the Old West they'd have been hung.
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 06:05 PM
Jul 2012

Abuse and dishonest horse trading. Presidential material fer shure.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
20. works for me!
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 08:36 PM
Jul 2012

No point wasting a bullet on lying horse traders!

The thought of Mitt as president scares me more than W. I was afraid W might accidentally start WW3. Mitt would do it on purpose to fulfill his dominionist apocalyptic vision.

Mopar151

(10,006 posts)
24. I 've learned a lot from your posts
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:45 PM
Jul 2012

And like many sports, a few unscrupulous trainers./coaches/owners can leave an awful stain. Abusive practices like "soring" and hyperflexion of the neck are cheatin', plain and simple - and some competitors get hooked on cheating, and feel that they have to, and everyone else must be! Cheaters need to be outed and hung out to dry! Look at NASCAR for examples - they hired the most "creative" crewchief (Gary Nelson) as their chief tech inspector, and all sorts of stuff came to light.

PCIntern

(25,623 posts)
15. In my dental school class was a gymnast who was an alternate
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 03:36 PM
Jul 2012

To the Canadian Olympic team. When he would get nervous he'd walk around on his hands for about half an hour. Remarkable.

susanna

(5,231 posts)
16. Gymnastics was my sport as well.
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 03:47 PM
Jul 2012

I watched Olga and Nadia back in the olden days, from toddler through childhood, and was determined to compete. I did, for many years, but my family was not truly supportive of my participation, and there were financial considerations as well. Still, it took an unexpected and severe illness to really stop me. I ended active competition at age 15 after a near-fatal illness. My physical and mental rehabilitation following the illness was such that training at a high level was simply out of the question.

All that said, I watched this video with such joy, because I love Gabby's dream and her spirit. She is such a dynamo to watch and I will be rooting for her as I watch the sport I still dearly love. Most of all, I miss flying like that, and these young ladies give that feeling back to me, if only for the brief moments that I get to watch them.

Thank you so much for posting this! I enjoyed hearing Gabby's story.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
18. I like the Olympics...
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 07:40 PM
Jul 2012

and just hope the spread of pro athletes stops. As I said in another thread, it is one of the few interactions our country has with other counties that doesn't involve bombing the bejeezus out of them.

alfredo

(60,078 posts)
21. My wife is a former gymnast and her body reminds her from time to time. It took until her
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:17 AM
Jul 2012

late forties to get over the bad eating habits. Still, she love the sport and has taught me a lot about the finer points.

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