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(192 posts)Seriously, when you're afraid of food, you need mental help.
TheManInTheMac
(985 posts)that's who.
sinkingfeeling
(51,490 posts)even offered breakfasts.
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)They have these chicken biscuit thingys, too
Duer 157099
(17,742 posts)I suspected so, but now it is confirmed. Eggs for breakfast, but not chicken.
Catherine Vincent
(34,491 posts)"They have these chicken biscuit thingys, too"
This made me chuckle the way you described their breakfast sandwiches or should I say breakfast biscuits.
gregoire
(192 posts)It seems a little strange for a xtian restaurant to serve pig. Maybe the ad is a fake?
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)They serve breakfast in most of the restaurants I've seen
cbayer
(146,218 posts)I know lots of jews and muslims that don't, but christians?
That is completely new news to me.
mitchtv
(17,718 posts)I don't know how rigid they are
demwing
(16,916 posts)mitchtv
(17,718 posts)she said not to feed babies eggs; 'eggs made them play with themselves'
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)who was a 7th Day Adventist that was a vegetarian. At that time, I could not understand why. But I am a vegetarian now, so I can understand why.
japple
(9,847 posts)conscious, and many are vegetarians. The Adventist hospital where I work does not serve pork in the cafeteria. They always have a vegetarian entree in addition to the fish, chicken or beef entree. They do, however, serve Chick Fil-A sandwiches from time-to-time in the cafeteria.
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Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)The hypocrisy comes in when they claim that every word of the Bible is revealed, literal truth, and that they follow it to the letter.
They just skip over that part about not eating pork or shellfish.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Go Vols
(5,902 posts)I grew up going to a Methodist church and ate pig many times in the "fellowship" hall connected to the church at "potluck" dinners the church put on.
Its been 30+ years since I have been,but they still do it.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)Duer 157099
(17,742 posts)they make an exception for that one too
It is really not at all strange for Christians to eat pork. What do you think bbq is made out of? That's why everyone has ham for Easter dinner, trying to make sure everyone knows they aren't Jewish celebrating passover. Jesus took away this old testament law. Jewish an Muslim folks don't eat pork; Christians tend to revel in it. Some "Christian" groups try to follow Jewish dietary laws, and Seventh Day Adventists move towards vegetarianism, because their founding prophet thought it was a healthier choice.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)You say that "Jesus took away this old testament law". I've heard that before, but never anything definitive. Did Jesus make the entirety of the old testament null and void or just certain parts of it?
d_r
(6,907 posts)but it has to do with "Covenants" or promised agreements between God and his followers. The laws of the old testament were the "old covenant." Jesus brought a "new covenant" between man and God. According to Christians, the sacrifice of Jesus earned this new agreement that took away the curse of original sin after the fall in the Garden of Eden. Jesus taught that all food was clean, among other things. The new commandment from Jesus was to love one's neighbor as one's self.
The old testament isn't "null and void" in that it is the history that leads up to the birth of Christ, the prophecy of Christ, it helps to understand the context of Christ. But the Jewish laws of the old testament are not binding to Christians who are bound to the new covenant and not the old.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)Obviously, Paul The Accomodater won
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)Then why do they still chose the chapter and verse of Leviticus to denounce Homosexuality??
Golly - I don't understand this anymore. Look - we have one Bible in Judaism. You guys (Christians) took it and called it the "Old Testament". But in actuality it's still our Bible. We always knew they were a collection of stories meant to teach us a lesson and tell of tales of our fore-fathers.
doohnibor
(97 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)So why do all these Xtian Holy Rollers always spout off about them if they're not "binding"?
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)but what comes out of it that is unclean".
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)EOTE
(13,409 posts)18 Are you so dull? he asked. Dont you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? 19 For it doesnt go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body. (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)
20 He went on: What comes out of a person is what defiles them.
That doesn't seem to me to make the Old Testament null and void to me. Rather, it just seems to contradict earlier portions of the bible. Why is it that those foods were not allowed in the first place? And why does Jesus need to use such snark when declaring foods clean when it was religious institutions that forbade them in the first place? It all seems very strange to me.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)it's one of the main things I like about him
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)simple one; how you treat people, how you interact with them and what you say is much more important than whether you are eating shellfish
EOTE
(13,409 posts)He makes the statement matter of factly. If this is the case, why was there ever a need for Leviticus in the first place?
mysuzuki2
(3,521 posts)most Xians ignotre that part.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)mysuzuki2
(3,521 posts)So whether Jesus was kidding in Matthew and telling the truth in Mark or the other way around people have to decide. You either have to obey all of it - no cheeseburgers, shrimp cocktails or mixed fabrics in your clothes as well as no gay sex, or none of it is valid including the no gay sex part. Incidently, Leviticus does not mention lesbian sex. Hmmmm. Anyway, Jesus talked over and over about feeding the poor, clothing the naked, and healing the sick. He said nothing about gay sex. That tells me what was important in his teaching. Gay sex did not seem to be a big deal compared to that other stuff.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)I haven't met a single christian who gives a damn about eating pork. Religion is like a buffet to them, they'll take the parts that affirm their beliefs and reject the others. I've also never met a christian who refuses to wear clothing made from more than one type of cloth or one who refuses to shave or one who refuses to eat shellfish for biblical reasons.
iamthebandfanman
(8,127 posts)not because the bible told them not to, atleast..
christians only pick and choose what they want to believe in from the bible ..
i was shocked to find out people arent out right now hunting down all the fig trees and destroying them !
evil satanic fig trees!!!!
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)nt
japple
(9,847 posts)the rest of the people in the South know this? Almost everyone in my community (N. GA) has a fig tree!
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)and follow none of the dietary rules of the Bible. None. Vast majority. In fact, they tend to eat pork on Easter and other holidays some would say specifically because it is not kosher.
Erose999
(5,624 posts)barbtries
(28,817 posts)until recently i ate breakfast there almost every work day. i miss it, but i can't give them another penny.
on the order of a mcdonald's breakfast but much better.
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)when was the last time you heard of a non virgin being stoned?
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Leviticus (as were Deuteronomy and Numbers, also) was written largely by and for the Levites-- one of the twelve Judaic tribes. The Levites were the priestly caste (at the time, a concomitant of law-givers & judges too). Half of the Book of Leviticus are rules specifically targeting the priestly caste only (most of the diestary restrictions fall within this demographic). Another quarter of the laws are specific to the tribe of Judea en-toto (criminal and civil laws, mainly), and only the final quarter specific for mankind as a whole (very general laws-- almost admonitions if read as such).
So unless one is aware of the specific target of any particular law (priest, tribe, or humanity), it's not really that accurate to say "most/all Christians are hypocrites because of A; if law A is merely targeting the tribe of Levites...
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)So Christians only pick and choose which laws they follow??
So what part of Leviticus do they follow?? They only cite the man cannot lay with another man BS. What about the Shellfish part - right after. Aren't they supposed to follow that as well?? Or just the ones that are convenient for them at this particular time??
I really want to know. Because as a Jew, we already know that these were laws that had to be followed at the time for health purposes. That's why I don't need to keep Kosher today. I don't need to - we have refrigeration . . .
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)It's not 'picking and choosing'. The target of the laws are specified in Leviticus. It's rather boring reading once you get into it-- much like reading a classical tome of laws (which it is, in fact). Lists of laws either pre- or-post qualified by the target of the law(s).
Commentary on the Old Testament by Gordon Wenham is a very helpful primer for a better understanding of it (it was for me anyways...)
On edit: because I didn't say this in my previous post and it may allow an additional perspective-- Leviticus is really, in and of itself, little more than a codified set of laws written by and for the tribe of Israel, with a few footnotes (or additional laws and codes, for all of humanity in general.).
Think of Hammurabi's code-- the majority of those laws were written specifically for other Babylonian citizens, but there were a number of codes set in that applied to anyone and everyone.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Jews pick and choose, too. I have friends who keep very strict kosher, others who use a modified kosher diet and some don't follow it at all.
Letter to Dr. Laura:
Dear Dr. Laura:
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the other specific laws and how to follow them:
When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1 . The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21 . In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15:19- 24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?
A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?
Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? - Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.
Your devoted fan,
Jim
Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)I think I first read it over ten years ago.
Mosby
(16,401 posts)Christians believe that jesus "completed" the mitzvot so all that came after didn't have to.
Jews (in general) believe that the torah must be analyzed and interpreted, so different denominations have developed very different views, all depending on which experts they follow. Its a lot like the relationship between the american constitution and the scotus, the law of the land is based not necessarily on the actual words and meaning, but on what the scotus says it says.
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)that is why I added "if you expect them to live by the word of the bible", as the OP claimed.
slutticus
(3,428 posts)thanks for the info.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)As did a lot of hippies. Although, it's possible that's not the kind of stoned that you're talking abou.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)upwards of 10,000 lies." Mark Twain
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Initech
(100,129 posts)HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)Yet, you make your employees stay home on Sundays which is only the CHRISTIAN Sabbath. I just read that Mayor Bloomberg said he would not prevent Chik-Fil-A from opening anywhere in the City. As a supposedly supporter of gay civil rights, and a JEW, can you say hypocrisy?
I do have faith in the people of Greenwich Village. They will close that store down by not patronizing it. The PEOPLE kept Walmart out, and they can do it too with Chik-Fil-A.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)collection of fairy tales
Zorra
(27,670 posts)bigotry by pointing to the Bible, and insisting we must live by the code of Leviticus on this one issue, and no other."
Dan Savage, 4/27/12
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)Love that quote
benld74
(9,911 posts)LynneSin
(95,337 posts)'Keep my decrees. "'Do not mate different kinds of animals. "'Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. "'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.
Leviticus 19:19
47of74
(18,470 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)...all the hypocrisy is hilarious.
iamthebandfanman
(8,127 posts)a link between them and fig trees...
STUPID EVIL FIG TREES!!!
begin_within
(21,551 posts)And "Whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me?"
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)bongbong
(5,436 posts)"Cows, Pigs, Wars And Witches" by Harris. Ex-head of Anthropology Dept. at Columbia.
Super interesting read, and explains a lot.