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Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:03 PM Jul 2012

Fucking ASSHOLE-slash-alleged "comedian" Dane Cook Tells Theater Shooting Joke At Laugh Factory

Dane Cook Tells Theater Shooting Joke At Laugh Factory

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/dane-cook-aurora-shooting-joke_n_1710221.html

If you've ever gone to a comedy show in the days following a tragic event, one thing inevitably happens. After several acts perform sets that avoid the elephant in the room, one comic will, after breaking the ice, tentatively ask permission to try out their (recent tragic event) material. More often than not, the audience says yes.

This seems to have been the case at Los Angeles' Laugh Factory on Thursday, when Dane Cook performed a joke related to the tragic theater shooting in Aurora, Colorado. Caught on tape by an audience member who was committing one of the cardinal comedy-show sins -- taping a comedian's set without permission -- Cook joked that "The Dark Knight Rises" is such a bad movie that " ... if none of that would have happened, I'm pretty sure that somebody in that theater, about 25 minutes in, realizing it was a piece of crap, was probably like, ‘Ugh, fucking shoot me.’”

The joke was met with a few groans, but they quickly gave way to laughter and then applause.

While some may feel that any jokes related to a tragedy are inappropriate, the clip could be seen as illustrating a fundamental tenet of comedy: that laughter leads to catharsis, and catharsis leads to healing.
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Fucking ASSHOLE-slash-alleged "comedian" Dane Cook Tells Theater Shooting Joke At Laugh Factory (Original Post) Amerigo Vespucci Jul 2012 OP
People are paying to see Dane Cook? Who knew? Erose999 Jul 2012 #1
One of the least funny comedians in recent memory. sarcasmo Jul 2012 #2
Second time in recent weeks that my sympathy for offened people is reduced by the fact Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #3
My god, that's a lame "joke" deutsey Jul 2012 #4
Ok seriously stop this with bullshit Drale Jul 2012 #5
I'm personally more offended that Dane Cook still has an audience. Initech Jul 2012 #7
I agree with that but Drale Jul 2012 #8
I agree with both of you. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2012 #12
I'm more offended that he ever had one... Blue_Tires Jul 2012 #44
i know arely staircase Jul 2012 #46
And then they can put up with the critiques and consequences treestar Jul 2012 #18
What's the subject of the joke, here? Brickbat Jul 2012 #21
Yeah, I think of Lenny Bruce doing his act after JFK's assassination deutsey Jul 2012 #32
bruce, carlin, pryor, and hicks arely staircase Jul 2012 #48
You're correct...Mea culpa deutsey Jul 2012 #49
In my opinion Dane Cook is not funny Drale Jul 2012 #37
Don't condemn him for a stupid joke? What is this, Stalin's Russia? Brickbat Jul 2012 #40
"If you put on a stage play, be prepared to be criticized, and if you don't want the criticism... LanternWaste Jul 2012 #39
That was definitely no "poor Vaughn Meader" Tom Ripley Jul 2012 #6
Gilbert Gottfried WilliamPitt Jul 2012 #9
Gilbert goes first. He's the master of 'too soon' and Dane Cook, as you say is no Gilbert Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #14
Dane Cook never seems to be able to get around to the punch line. Just when you think Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2012 #16
And... skypilot Jul 2012 #38
I've always assumed that was his appeal. "He's just like me and people are listening to him!" Tom Ripley Jul 2012 #45
Spot on. The little bit that I was able to endure gave me the same exact Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2012 #55
That was one of comedy's most brilliant moments. nolabear Jul 2012 #17
His stand-up is incredible WilliamPitt Jul 2012 #25
I can't get beyond Gottfried's voice deutsey Jul 2012 #34
No topic is off limits in comedy. Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2012 #10
He needs to wait for Louis CK to come up with a good joke about it. Then he can steal it. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2012 #13
Nah, Patton Oswalt. Arkana Jul 2012 #20
I just meant that he's been known to steal jokes from Louis CK. Probably Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2012 #24
We need a bad taste unit of the police dept. JohnnyRingo Jul 2012 #11
I've never heard of this guy Whisp Jul 2012 #15
Dane Cook is a terrible comedian, but not because of this. Arkana Jul 2012 #19
All good comedy is tragedy plus time....nt msanthrope Jul 2012 #22
Sounds like the next gen Andrew 'Dice' Clay lpbk2713 Jul 2012 #23
Did you know that Andrew 'Dice' Clay and Yakov Smirnoff were once roommates? Tom Ripley Jul 2012 #26
I am not, by nature, a heckler... lapfog_1 Jul 2012 #27
What's funny is that he would call any movie crap Blaspherian Jul 2012 #28
Really? You didn't think "Employee of the Month" with co-star Jessica Simpson bullwinkle428 Jul 2012 #31
That Man is Not Funny. Only news here is he is even more not funny than usual. CBGLuthier Jul 2012 #29
He's a good example of how the free market isn't always right. reformist2 Jul 2012 #30
Relax, it's just his way of reminding us zappaman Jul 2012 #33
If you're offended by this, MadHound Jul 2012 #35
There is a WORLD of difference between participatory humor and standup slampoet Jul 2012 #41
Well, frankly I don't even know who Dane Cook is, MadHound Jul 2012 #43
When was the last time i got paid for comedy? slampoet Jul 2012 #54
dane cook told a joke? arely staircase Jul 2012 #36
He paid a writer, who told him the joke, which he then repeated the same way except less funny. slampoet Jul 2012 #42
Dane Cook is a hack, but...... DefenseLawyer Jul 2012 #47
I don't mind tasteless or offensive jokes as long as they're really, really funny. cbdo2007 Jul 2012 #50
are you still mad? snooper2 Jul 2012 #51
Too soon? Earth_First Jul 2012 #52
Oh no! Not a joke!!! MrSlayer Jul 2012 #53
who is Dane Cook anyways ? JI7 Jul 2012 #56
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
3. Second time in recent weeks that my sympathy for offened people is reduced by the fact
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:15 PM
Jul 2012

that they willfully paid to see Dane Cook.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
4. My god, that's a lame "joke"
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:16 PM
Jul 2012

I can't even get all outraged about it. It's just stupid.

I do believe that laughter leads to catharsis, catharsis leads to healing...but the comic first needs to say something that elicits laughter.

Drale

(7,932 posts)
5. Ok seriously stop this with bullshit
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:16 PM
Jul 2012

Comedians have always touched subjects that no one else will touch. If you don't think something is funny don't laugh at it, don't try and make a person a public enemy. People get to offended these days. If you go to a comedy club prepared to be offended and if you don't want to be offended don't go to a comedy club.

Drale

(7,932 posts)
8. I agree with that but
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:25 PM
Jul 2012

its ridiculous that people freak about because of one joke, if you don't like it don't laugh its as simple as that and I never laugh at Dane Cook.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
44. I'm more offended that he ever had one...
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 02:36 PM
Jul 2012

He never would have lasted 30 seconds matching up with even the b-list stand ups in the 1980s...

But he's handsome and the girls swoon, so that still counts for something, I guess...

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
21. What's the subject of the joke, here?
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:52 PM
Jul 2012

It's true, really good comedians have often used humor -- and shocking humor -- to make a point or ridicule something that deserves to be ridiculed. Richard Pryor is an obvious example, of course, for using strong language and humor to point out true problems of poverty, racism and other social issues.

What's the point, subject, or social issue that this comedian is addressing? What is the truth he's uncovering by being shocking?

And it's true, shocking comedians don't have to be addressing deep philosophical ideas. But if they don't, then they're just being shocking to shock, and that's lazy and cheap.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
32. Yeah, I think of Lenny Bruce doing his act after JFK's assassination
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:32 PM
Jul 2012

Although many entertainers canceled their shows after the assassination, Bruce went on either the night of or the night after JFK was shot.

He walked up to the mic, stood there for a long, dramatic pause, and then said: "Poor Vaughn Meader!" (Meader was a comedian famous at the time for a popular record he did impersonating and satirizing JFK and the Kennedys). He was basically saying that Meade's career was pretty much over after Dallas (and, apparently, Bruce was right...Meade quickly sank into obscurity after the assassination).

It struck a chord, his audience laughed, and Bruce went on to reflect on and discuss the tragedy in his own, unique way.

Had Bruce gone out and tried to make the actual shooting and death of the president a joke, I doubt he would have had the same reaction from the audience (especially back in '63).

I think only a very small minority of comedians are able to find the right balance when doing that high-wire act...Bruce, Carlin, Pryor, Hicks, a few others...definitely not Dane.

Drale

(7,932 posts)
37. In my opinion Dane Cook is not funny
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:53 PM
Jul 2012

but some people find him funny and as far as I'm concerned he has every right to say what ever he wants when he's up on stage. If you don't find him funny don't laugh at him but don't condemn him for a stupid joke he made.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
39. "If you put on a stage play, be prepared to be criticized, and if you don't want the criticism...
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 02:06 PM
Jul 2012

Comedians, much as movies, new orchestral pieces, stage plays, et,. al., are also subject to scrutiny and criticism. "If you put on a stage play, be prepared to be criticized, and if you don't want the criticism, don't put on the stage play..."

Seems little more than six of on and half a dozen of the other to me...

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
9. Gilbert Gottfried
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:28 PM
Jul 2012

Scant days after 9/11, Gilbert Gottfried was participating in a roast of Hugh Hefner, and made a 9/11 joke...something about being worried about flying to New York and having to change planes at the Empire State Building. The crowd groaned and booed, some shouted "Too soon!"...and Gottfried recovered by launching himself into The Aristocrats joke.

He leveled the room, and afterwards, people said the catharsis of the laughter was amazing.

Of course, Gottfried's shoot-first approach to humor got him dumped by Aflac after he mad a joke about the Japan tsunami, but the moral still holds: laughter heals.

Watch. It is a thing of beauty, from the film The Aristocrats. WARNING: ***Incredibly*** not safe for work:



P.S. Dane Cook is simply an awful comedian.

P.P.S. If you don't get the Aristocrats joke reference, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Aristocrats_(joke)
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
14. Gilbert goes first. He's the master of 'too soon' and Dane Cook, as you say is no Gilbert
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:33 PM
Jul 2012

Gottfried. One is a comedian, the other is Dane Cook.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,509 posts)
16. Dane Cook never seems to be able to get around to the punch line. Just when you think
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:41 PM
Jul 2012

he's gonna get there. He makes some stupid sound, facial expression or just flexes to look pretty instead.

skypilot

(8,854 posts)
38. And...
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:55 PM
Jul 2012

...his audience doesn't seem to actually laugh at his "jokes". At least they didn't on the DVD I rented a few years ago of one of his performances. He was performing to a stadium full of douchey-looking 20-something guys and their girlfriends and I swear that they didn't actually laugh, instead everyone simply applauded when Dane said something that (I guess) they thought was funny. It was really odd. Maybe they laughed at some point later in the performance. I could only stand to watch about 20 minutes of it.

 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
45. I've always assumed that was his appeal. "He's just like me and people are listening to him!"
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 02:42 PM
Jul 2012

It really doesn't matter to his audience that he is not funny. They are looking for validation, not humor.

nolabear

(42,001 posts)
17. That was one of comedy's most brilliant moments.
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:44 PM
Jul 2012

But the reason it was, was Gottfried's ability to take a big mistake and turn it on its head. Had he not done that it would have just been uncomfortable. Same as the Tosh rape joke. There was a great article on Jezebel re how to tell a funny rape joke. Some really funny examples were given, but they had that twist that wasn't just "Hey, wouldn't it be funny if you got raped?" In The Aristocrats Sarah Silverman does a cringingly hilarious rape joke.

I believe it. Dying is easy. Comedy is hard. (And I have the most conflicted relationship with Gottfried ever. He creeps me out and now and then crosses over into crude brilliance).

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
34. I can't get beyond Gottfried's voice
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:36 PM
Jul 2012

However, when I take him in small doses, he has made me laugh.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
10. No topic is off limits in comedy.
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:28 PM
Jul 2012

With that said, Cook's "joke" was so lame and unimaginative, that was the true offense. He could have riffed on the shooter in a way that would have worked, but he doesn't have the talent to do so.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,509 posts)
24. I just meant that he's been known to steal jokes from Louis CK. Probably
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:56 PM
Jul 2012

a bunch of others too. But that's the first one that came to mind.

JohnnyRingo

(18,673 posts)
11. We need a bad taste unit of the police dept.
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:30 PM
Jul 2012

The club could have a BTU officer in the audience to rush the stage and charge Cook for "insensitivity" with a "too soon" specification.

Actually, comedy clubs are on the very frontiers of our social boundaries. Expect to be offended once in a while.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
15. I've never heard of this guy
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:36 PM
Jul 2012

so I looked up a couple youtubes.

I like his stage presence - he's sort of cute in a way. Confident, cocky, and comfortable with what he is doing.

His material, otoh, is really tepid. I don't understand why the audience laughs so heartily and often but I'm supposing if you paid for tickets you are likely to find something worth the money to justify the purchase.

About his joke you pointed out - he just wanted attention and got it - any publicity is good publicity. It wasn't a very clever joke and probably too soon after such a tragedy but I can't really cry foul over - comedians are supposed to be obnoxious and attention seeking and say the unspeakable.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
19. Dane Cook is a terrible comedian, but not because of this.
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:50 PM
Jul 2012

He's a terrible comedian because his jokes are either a) shitty or b) stolen from someone else, and he thinks that by leaping up and down on the stage like a hyperactive seal and running around in circles makes him funny.

 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
26. Did you know that Andrew 'Dice' Clay and Yakov Smirnoff were once roommates?
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:01 PM
Jul 2012

Can you imagine the level of concentrated suck within those walls?

lapfog_1

(29,239 posts)
27. I am not, by nature, a heckler...
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:02 PM
Jul 2012

but I think after hearing this "joke" I would have stood up and said "much like this performance by you, Mr. Cook"

bullwinkle428

(20,631 posts)
31. Really? You didn't think "Employee of the Month" with co-star Jessica Simpson
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:31 PM
Jul 2012

was the "Citizen Kane" of its time??

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
35. If you're offended by this,
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:40 PM
Jul 2012

Good thing you didn't overhear any of the conversations among the emergency responders. Cops, EMT's, firefighters are all notorious for their very raw, crude humor about whatever situation they are currently dealing with or have just dealt with. It is how they blow off steam, how they remain sane amongst the madness, humor.

Frankly I'm glad that somebody is breaking the humor barrier, humor helps everybody heal.

slampoet

(5,032 posts)
41. There is a WORLD of difference between participatory humor and standup
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 02:32 PM
Jul 2012

participatory humor isn't repeated night after night and rarely written out or even planned.

Plus even if it is planned it is storytelling and not in joke form.



I'm sure the humor of Male Whores is cutting too, but it doesn't have any bearing on stand up and I'm a little off put that you would imply that Dane Cook has any of the problems hard working Americans have. It is precisely his lack of life experience that makes him an unfunny comedian and the object of scorn from people who know how to write comedy everywhere.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
43. Well, frankly I don't even know who Dane Cook is,
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 02:35 PM
Jul 2012

But the fact of the matter is that one of the greatest coping mechanisms that humans have is laughter, humor, comedy. It has always been part of the job of a jester, a comedian, to use humor to help heal national wounds. Is the joke lame, sure, but at least it is an attempt to heal through humor.

What are you doing to help this country heal from this wound? Oh, yeah, denigrating those who are actually doing something about the problem.

slampoet

(5,032 posts)
54. When was the last time i got paid for comedy?
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 03:44 PM
Jul 2012

Last week? and I'll get paid again in two weeks.

you loose Captain Assumption, Take back your decoder ring, i ain't buying your boxtops.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
47. Dane Cook is a hack, but......
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 02:46 PM
Jul 2012

people that get bent out of shape over a comedy routine need to refocus their energy.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
50. I don't mind tasteless or offensive jokes as long as they're really, really funny.
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 03:21 PM
Jul 2012

This may have been the dumbest joke I've ever heard and it's not even factually correct.

The general concensus about the movie is that it is excellent, I haven't heard one person say that it's a bad movie, so the joke begins ridiculous and then the punchline was just lame.

I don't mind people telling jokes about this but make them good jokes at least.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
53. Oh no! Not a joke!!!
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 03:28 PM
Jul 2012

Cook is a terrible comedian as is the Tosh guy that caused an uproar last week but I have no problem with people making jokes about anything as long as they're funny. This joke isn't funny.

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