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Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
1. they should after all, he is a stable genius and the bestest negotiator anywhere, ever...
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 07:13 PM
Feb 2018

how could such a wonder ever fall victim to a "perjury trap".

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
2. No, he lies when the truth serves him better. He's going to a grand jury and is going to plead 5th
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 07:15 PM
Feb 2018

... if the Russians help RussPublicans survive control of congress.

If RussPublicans don't survive he'll resign and Pence will pardon him and the KGOP will run Satan in 2020

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
3. He acts like this is a fucking invitation to a cocktail party. Who the hell does he think he is?
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 07:24 PM
Feb 2018

"Oh, no, I'm not going to testify. I have a prior engagement." He - and his lawyers - are such complete idiots!

procon

(15,805 posts)
5. His attorneys are too worried about their own legal problems to risk
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 07:52 PM
Feb 2018

letting Mueller get hold of Trump. They know that Trump can't be silenced and he's too stupid to know the danger he's in so he will happily blab about everything because he's a genius, doncha know!

BigmanPigman

(51,585 posts)
7. Correction: he is a "stable genius". I think a jockey handed him his diploma
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 08:01 PM
Feb 2018

from an ivy league equestrian school. The best, finest equestrian school of course.

PJMcK

(22,034 posts)
6. Trump could be screwed and I sure hope so
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 08:00 PM
Feb 2018

Consider the broad outlines of the circumstances. Robert Mueller is conducting an inquiry into Russian interference in the U.S. 2016 elections along with any criminal acts he discovers during his investigation. There are so many connections between Trump's campaign/transition/administration and Russia that this is the primary focus of the investigation with a secondary look at any financial acts by the individuals/groups discovered in their queries.

Remember that Trump's greatest vulnerability is related to his personal finances. Trump has already made the ludicrous comment that if Mr. Mueller looks into his finances, that would cross a red line. Bullshit. Mr. Mueller has a mandate to follow the evidence.

So, Trump will have a series of binary choices going forward.

1. He can either agree to an interview with Mr. Mueller's team or he can try to claim Executive Privilege. If he agrees to the interview, he can have his attorneys advising him throughout the interview and he'll be able to make credible arguments against answering some questions. If he and Mr. Mueller cannot agree on the terms of an interview, then we move on to the next step.

2. Mr. Mueller can subpoena Trump through one or more of his Grand Juries. In the unlikely event that Trump complies with the subpoena, he'll have to testify under oath without his lawyers being present. That would be the end of his presidency since he cannot tell the truth and will commit multiple acts of perjury. The alternative is he could contest the subpoena(s) thereby delaying a decision until the Supreme Court either hears the case or, more likely, declines to hear it since they've already made this ruling. Ultimately, Trump will have to testify.

3. Having been over-ruled by SCOTUS, Trump can either submit to the testimony and that loops back to the first half of #2 above. Of course, Trump is exactly the kind of person to try to ignore the compulsive testimony.

Then what?

Actually, by that point, I believe most of the GOP will have abandoned Trump in order to try to save their own asses. Meanwhile, Trump and his scum & family will spin away, one way or another.

How pathetic is it that this is what's become of our country?

Thanks, Trump. Hey, GOP: You suck.

BigmanPigman

(51,585 posts)
8. I think the GOP will stick by him until
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 08:32 PM
Feb 2018

the bitter end, even if it means the end of our democracy. They are taitors and their only loyalty is to the almighty dollar and power/reelction.

global1

(25,242 posts)
9. If His Lawyers Are Patriots....
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 08:44 PM
Feb 2018

they would let him go to testify and let him hang himself. They can always say it was his decision to testify.

BigmanPigman

(51,585 posts)
10. They are only Patriots if they are fans of the
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 08:49 PM
Feb 2018

football team. Their only alliance is with their pocketbooks.

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