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...gaming machines, at casinos, is regulated and transparent.
The software code used in voting machines is deemed "proprietary", by the corporations that own them, and therefore is not subject to inspection.
Do I have my facts correct?
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Scuba
(53,475 posts)<a href="http://imgur.com/drkWK"><img src="" alt="" title="Hosted by imgur.com" /></a>
riverbendviewgal
(4,254 posts)The Link does not work though...
In Ontario we vote with pencil and paper.....Votes are counted by the end of the evening. We have enough of people per population to man the voting stations...and we also have a couple of early days to vote other than the voting day
I like our system.
SunSeeker
(51,772 posts)It could never work in the U.S....because it would result in verifiable and accurate vote totals.
HeiressofBickworth
(2,682 posts)because no corporation profits from the transaction. Remember, it's always all about the money. Someone figured out how to wring some cash out of a voting procedure and then spread enough gratis around to get contracts to furnish the machines. Profit, profit, profit.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)SunSeeker
(51,772 posts)malthaussen
(17,219 posts)Atman
(31,464 posts)Last edited Thu Jul 26, 2012, 10:59 AM - Edit history (1)
I designed the animated graphics for a couple of slot machines. I called the company to request a little more time to complete the project. That's when I found out how ridiculous our treatment of voting machines is.
I was told no, I could not have more time because they are required by law to provide 30 days notice to the state anytime they move the machines, and the delivery date was already set. Not only that, they were required to hire a team of off-duty state troopers (paid overtime, of course) to provide escort while the machines were in transit. If they changed the delivery date it would literally cost them over ten thousand dollars...which they would be happy to take out of my fee if I really needed the time.
For voting machines, some local registrar can toss an electronic machine in the back of his minivan and take it home. And I don't recall anyone explaining why the need modem ports.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)I guess they could uses blue tooth, but that's a local protocol. A wireless modem lets them be hacked from damn near anywhere.
meow2u3
(24,774 posts)Atman
(31,464 posts)People know how.
unc70
(6,123 posts)Pre-hack the hardware -- almost any piece, even memory chips - do you know where your hardware has been?
Dongle on keyboard, mouse, touch screen
In ballot setup
and on and on and on
My DU2 journal and archive and elsewhere have a lot about this.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)That does not mean it is regulated or transparent. However, it is a damn site better than black box voting machines
Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)wakemewhenitsover
(1,595 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)the cash registers where I buy tacos. I get a receipt with my tacos.
Atman
(31,464 posts)You ordered and paid for a burrito, when you actually ordered a chimi. Diebold can figure this out. Voting...eh...it's too complicated, apparently.
intheflow
(28,514 posts)I can get my transaction receipts in a couple different ways from that.
DaveJ
(5,023 posts)Almost everyone would vote. What good is political power if everyone is able to vote? Then politicians would just have to start working for the people, and they don't want that.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Now, why didn't anyone else think of that??
Klukie
(2,237 posts)Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)If a slot machine of a particular type (say, one with a Batman theme) is to be used in Nevada, then ALL the manufacturer's machines of that type must meet certain specifications, regardless of where they're sold or to be used.
Thus, if an improper machine is found in use in Las Vegas, the manufacturer can't say, "Oops, that was intended for one of our customers in Panama, a clerical error caused it to be shipped here instead." Even if it was intended for Panama, it has to meet Nevada's standards.
deaniac21
(6,747 posts)at Black Box Voting...
IDemo
(16,926 posts)Diebold, Incorporated is now safeguarding the foundation of America's history, the Charters of Freedom: the U.S. Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights, in three customized high-tech vaults installed at the National Archives Building in Washington, D.C.
http://www.diebold.com/charters.htm