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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:36 PM Jan 2018

This guy is risking jail to stop Mueller. What's he hiding?

.@DevinNunes wont deny he had his staff work w/ White House on "attack the FBI" memo. Congrats, dude: U just waived Congressional immunity. To be indicted for conspiracy, u dont need to know what the other hand is doing. This guy is risking jail to stop Mueller. What's he hiding?


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This guy is risking jail to stop Mueller. What's he hiding? (Original Post) MelissaB Jan 2018 OP
Probably Russian mob money. dalton99a Jan 2018 #1
I'll say it again. They ALL took the dirty Russian Money! Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #16
That whole damn party is guilty of this! Initech Jan 2018 #24
It's the ONLY possible explanation. dchill Jan 2018 #27
see my thread from this morning... NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #25
Devin Nunes is now in unapologetic open warfare with the FBI and federal law enforcement. MelissaB Jan 2018 #2
Then he's strutting into a rocket launcher fight with his trusty butter knife. tanyev Jan 2018 #12
According to a long twitter thread I read this morning WhiteTara Jan 2018 #3
I remember reading that his "wine business" had Russian ties. MelissaB Jan 2018 #5
his partner is a close friend of Putin. WhiteTara Jan 2018 #15
I'm crossing my fingers it's not true. LanternWaste Jan 2018 #10
I think it may consume our national identity forever. WhiteTara Jan 2018 #14
quite possible; Putin has unlimited money and hackers; they could install the GOP indefinitely. nt TheFrenchRazor Jan 2018 #35
Seriously, I think we're about as likely to be invaded by aliens. Hortensis Jan 2018 #36
+1000000000000000 FreepFryer Feb 2018 #48
Yeah, I read that. BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #20
Along with the Turtle, that's my take on it too. WhiteTara Jan 2018 #22
Nunes behavior reminded me of an old saying... dchill Jan 2018 #28
I had to be corrected by another DUer Ilsa Jan 2018 #38
Oh good. Thanks. BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #39
So how the hell has he not been arrested for ......something? dhol82 Jan 2018 #40
IOKIYAR WhiteTara Feb 2018 #47
Has anyone heard a reporter point out Nunes was on the Trump Transition Team? MelissaB Jan 2018 #4
Yes, Nunes was on the executive committee of Trump's transition team dalton99a Jan 2018 #8
Have you heard a reporter say this on TV? MelissaB Jan 2018 #17
Yes, sometime last year dalton99a Jan 2018 #19
I wish they would hammer it now. MelissaB Jan 2018 #31
Rachel Maddow does occasionally but could more often. meadowlander Feb 2018 #44
Exactly. leanforward Jan 2018 #6
Nunes is throwing a hail Mary, trying to bail water out of a sinking kayak. sunonmars Jan 2018 #7
his partner is a close friend of Putin. WhiteTara Jan 2018 #23
Music to my ears: RandomAccess Jan 2018 #9
What's he hiding? GeorgeGist Jan 2018 #11
MSNBC analyst asks if Devin Nunes is secretly a Russian agent Gothmog Jan 2018 #13
He must have taken bribes from establishment republicans ffr Jan 2018 #18
Exact conversation I had earlier !! No one would risk going to jail for Red Don UNLESS they're uponit7771 Jan 2018 #21
May be nothing wrong with it. A LLC formed in Delaware with most of its startup money LiberalArkie Jan 2018 #26
Is Congressional immunity similar to lawyer-client privilege, then? BobTheSubgenius Jan 2018 #29
I decided to not be so lazy as to rely on others to learn me up, so I did some searching. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2018 #30
He is involved in the coverup The Wizard Jan 2018 #32
yes in some way it almost must be. triron Jan 2018 #37
I doubt a prosecutor would indict something so obviously political Cicada Jan 2018 #33
Impeaching the integrity of the FBI and Justice Department meadowlander Feb 2018 #45
Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #51
Are you the Head of the House Intelligence Committee? meadowlander Feb 2018 #58
you think collusion with a foreign enemy is NORMAL? Skittles Feb 2018 #46
Trump colluded with Russia, Nunes colluded with Trump Cicada Feb 2018 #49
no it is NOT NORMAL to cover up COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA Skittles Feb 2018 #50
Our govt lies about Russia all the time, year in year out, whats new? Cicada Feb 2018 #53
omg Skittles Feb 2018 #54
Wow, Cicada saidsimplesimon Feb 2018 #55
Putin sucks. Our US war machine also sucks. Cicada Feb 2018 #57
K&r UTUSN Jan 2018 #34
I am thinking he is worried about a ricin needle via umbrella dhol82 Jan 2018 #41
Yup. moondust Feb 2018 #42
K&R Mike Niendorff Feb 2018 #43
MSNBC analyst asks if Devin Nunes is secretly a Russian agent Gothmog Feb 2018 #52
From my twitter feed Gothmog Feb 2018 #56

Initech

(100,068 posts)
24. That whole damn party is guilty of this!
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:56 PM
Jan 2018

And they are all coming down! I mean shit, that weasel Ron Paul was on fucking Russian State TV telling the hosts that Donald Trump is theirs again! I mean if that's not proof of collusion than what is??? It's almost like they're *TRYING* to get caught!

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
2. Devin Nunes is now in unapologetic open warfare with the FBI and federal law enforcement.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:42 PM
Jan 2018

Wow, @DevinNunes is now in unapologetic open warfare with the FBI and federal law enforcement. Let's see where that leads him.





WhiteTara

(29,705 posts)
3. According to a long twitter thread I read this morning
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:43 PM
Jan 2018

(sorry it was 4:30am...I was waiting for the eclipse, so I have no idea where to find it on DU) that showed he was in bed with the Armenian mob along with the Russian mob and the Putin circle. If I understand correctly, he was unmasked in an FBI sting on some Russian mobster.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
5. I remember reading that his "wine business" had Russian ties.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:45 PM
Jan 2018

It's so hard to keep all of these damn characters and their illegal activities straight.

WhiteTara

(29,705 posts)
15. his partner is a close friend of Putin.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:31 PM
Jan 2018

Because of the odd hour, I didn't quite understand about the partner...it sounded like the first one died mysteriously and then he got this new one? I'll have to try and find that, but I may have to wait until tomorrow since I didn't go back to bed after the eclipse.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
10. I'm crossing my fingers it's not true.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:04 PM
Jan 2018

One year ago, I would have mocked the implication. One year later, I'm crossing my fingers it's not true. What a difference a year makes.

Not because I want Nunes to be innocent, mind you... but because if it true, it's the tip of an awfully ugly, awfully large iceberg that could consume our national identity for the next twenty years.

WhiteTara

(29,705 posts)
14. I think it may consume our national identity forever.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:29 PM
Jan 2018

I fear we will become a Russian satellite with a dictator firmly in place.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
36. Seriously, I think we're about as likely to be invaded by aliens.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 08:49 PM
Jan 2018

You do realize Russia is a pissant, underdeveloped, mostly impoverished country with an economy about the size of California's? It makes and sells a lot of weapons, but otherwise it has little industry, and most income is from exporting commodities to more advanced nations for manufacturing by them.

As for "consuming our national identity," that is a product of centuries and a product of our people who live today, and it can't just be destroyed. Real damage is being done to institutions and standards developed over more than 200 years, but our national identity is what will help restore them.

The tremendous betrayals today guarantee big societal reactions. Itm, maybe you could look inside yourself for facets of that national identity you value and commit to upholding them? That would be a good personal reaction.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
20. Yeah, I read that.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:51 PM
Jan 2018

He has a winery with a Russian, money in Cypress, and some communications deal in the Azores and the Russians wanted to get into that area too. Too many Russian ties. Did he really think no one would question his behavior? He is another moron along with Ryan for telling him to release it. Remember when Rosenstein and Ryan and Nunes had a special meeting a month ago? Russia is blackmailing them both. Ryan took Russian campaign money and he may have been caught in surveillance by the FBI when they were trying to keep track of Russian activity and Ryan was unaware of it and probably is trying to save his own ass now.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
39. Oh good. Thanks.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 09:10 PM
Jan 2018

I don't know if it is me or my retarded tablet autocheck that actually makes incorrect spelling, caps, and punct all the time and I have to edit everything 3 times. This happens with a lot of people with tablets.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
40. So how the hell has he not been arrested for ......something?
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:52 PM
Jan 2018

Damn, the man is complicit in collusion against this country!

dalton99a

(81,475 posts)
8. Yes, Nunes was on the executive committee of Trump's transition team
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:59 PM
Jan 2018

And he wasn't chosen at random

leanforward

(1,076 posts)
6. Exactly.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:47 PM
Jan 2018

Does Nunes have an ownership in a winery? I read somewhere that a California representative changed a financial report/statement when questioned about a russian investment in that winery. Something to do with marketing.

Has he made any trips to Russia or elsewhere in the world on the pretext of wine marketing?

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
21. Exact conversation I had earlier !! No one would risk going to jail for Red Don UNLESS they're
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:55 PM
Jan 2018

... caught up too !

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
26. May be nothing wrong with it. A LLC formed in Delaware with most of its startup money
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:17 PM
Jan 2018

from Russian investors. But the candidate gets his check cut from an American company. "Let's bring back Tammany Hall, LLC"

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
29. Is Congressional immunity similar to lawyer-client privilege, then?
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:26 PM
Jan 2018

In the case of the latter, the privilege is voided by the presence of a third party. Is it then that people in Congress, or their immediate employees, are the only ones covered by this immunity?

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
30. I decided to not be so lazy as to rely on others to learn me up, so I did some searching.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:37 PM
Jan 2018

It "appears" that what I surmised has some legs, although it's not a sure thing. According to former WH ethics counsel Norm Eisen:

"The Congressional Immunity law states that members of the U.S. Congress can not be prosecuted while they are “attending a session of the body to which the member belongs, excluding an arrest for treason, breach of the peace, or a felony.”

The law also provides immunity from arrest or interrogation “for any speech or debate entered into during a legislative session.”

Neither of those provisions would seem to apply to members working with another branch of government to obstruct justice.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
32. He is involved in the coverup
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 07:20 PM
Jan 2018

We have Russian agents in the ranks of government. Only this time it in the hierarchy of the GOP. The term Siberian Candidate used to be a laugh line. Not anymore.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
33. I doubt a prosecutor would indict something so obviously political
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 07:30 PM
Jan 2018

This is good old fashioned politics and a prosecutor isn’t likely to go after that. Politics is what politicians do. Indicting Nunes would be like indicting a cat for killing a mouse. It’s what cats do.

meadowlander

(4,395 posts)
45. Impeaching the integrity of the FBI and Justice Department
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 02:51 AM
Feb 2018

to derail an active counter-intelligence investigation isn't "good old fashioned politics". It is obstruction of justice.

Trying to normalise it is giving aide to the enemy.

Response to meadowlander (Reply #45)

meadowlander

(4,395 posts)
58. Are you the Head of the House Intelligence Committee?
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 01:28 AM
Feb 2018

No? Then I think it is "that different". Believe it or not a congressperson who has been given access to classified sensitive information that can lead to people being killed if it gets out is held to a slightly higher standard that the average Joe Schlub on the street. You also haven't taken an oath to defend the Constitution and you don't have a security clearance.

And so... you would obviously prefer the alternative to indicting the President, which is allowing Russian puppet leaders to dismantle our democratic institutions? That isn't "fantastically horrible for democracy"?

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
49. Trump colluded with Russia, Nunes colluded with Trump
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 03:52 PM
Feb 2018

What Nunes does is normal. See Benghazi crap.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
53. Our govt lies about Russia all the time, year in year out, whats new?
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 04:03 PM
Feb 2018

This time they lie the other way, forgiving them instead of persecuting them. This does not come as a surprise to me.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
55. Wow, Cicada
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 04:16 PM
Feb 2018

There is a line between cynic (me) and aiding and abetting the Putin propaganda machine. The test of a critical thinker, imo, is wading the waters looking for the gem in the jetsam and flotsam.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
57. Putin sucks. Our US war machine also sucks.
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 08:13 PM
Feb 2018

We constantly invade nations and kill countless people. We have invaded dozens of nations and keep doing it. Our national security apparatus lies to us at every turn. We and Europe have constantly lied about Russia even though Russia also happens to be evil. They suck and we suck too. So a politician lying about Russia to help Trump does not strike me as outside the normal bounds of our political norms. It is just more of the same. Even tho Putin is an evil murderous creep. Was Cheney any better really?

moondust

(19,979 posts)
42. Yup.
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 12:17 AM
Feb 2018

I'm beginning to wonder if the GOP cabal has concluded that they only have two options:

1. Stop Mueller's investigation.

2. Go to prison, possibly for a long time.

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