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TygrBright

(20,759 posts)
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 03:03 PM Jan 2018

Last Night, [Redacted] Asked Congress for an Enabling Act

If you don't know the history of the Enabling Act of 1933, research it at your leisure.

Here's the quote:

"Tonight, I call on Congress to empower every cabinet secretary with the authority to reward good workers and to remove federal employees who undermine the public trust or fail the American people.”


In other words, he wants to implement a purge, government-wide, of anyone his appointees deem as insufficiently loyal or helpful.

Not only would this require rolling back more than a century of Civil Service reformation, it is the very essence of authoritarianism.

I cannot understand why every news organ in the country didn't headline with this.

But I think we each and every one of us need to phone our congresscritters NOW to tell them that such an Enabling Act would be neither Constitutional nor acceptable in a free country.

determinedly,
Bright
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Last Night, [Redacted] Asked Congress for an Enabling Act (Original Post) TygrBright Jan 2018 OP
Friggin' Scary! kentuck Jan 2018 #1
I have a republican rep and he listens to me not Angry Dragon Jan 2018 #2
He may not listen to you, individually. TygrBright Jan 2018 #5
It is authoritarian in the extreme. alarimer Jan 2018 #3
It's my understanding that if it's the U.S. Govt it IS illegal RandomAccess Jan 2018 #16
I suspect it would run afoul of current Civil Service regulations. alarimer Feb 2018 #17
Exactly RandomAccess Feb 2018 #18
First offical shot at Wellstone ruled Jan 2018 #4
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Jan 2018 #6
Trump ignores such history, of course. Or he'd know it's a slippery slope... FailureToCommunicate Jan 2018 #7
"remove federal employees who undermine the public trust or fail the American people" avebury Jan 2018 #8
Including him. We are the Sec'y of the ppl, we should be able to fire him iluvtennis Jan 2018 #10
Important post. Thank you. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #9
i haven't heard the whole speech by a long shot barbtries Jan 2018 #11
I think you're right. It's got that Miller stench. TygrBright Jan 2018 #15
Yep..... SergeStorms Jan 2018 #12
Decades of demonizing Federal workers not fooled Jan 2018 #13
OMG. That is shocking. He wants to purge all those whose spouses didn't vote for him. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #14

TygrBright

(20,759 posts)
5. He may not listen to you, individually.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 03:20 PM
Jan 2018

But if his staff tell him (some vast number) of calls referred to this and DO NOT WANT it will not go unnoticed, even if he is a collaborator.

Call.

This is a camel's nose situation and the rest of the camel looks like a fucking gulag.

determinedly,
Bright

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
3. It is authoritarian in the extreme.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 03:16 PM
Jan 2018

I guess he means to fire people because of their politics. Which is not illegal, but would certainly be unsavory. I guess the way Trump would do it would violate civil service rules in any case.

"Undermine public trust" means not doing what Trump wants. So every scientist whose results contradict what Trumps wants to do would be out. Science as a public good would be forever ruined. Civil servants can and should be protected from that kind of political nonsense.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
17. I suspect it would run afoul of current Civil Service regulations.
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 10:16 AM
Feb 2018

But it is certainly contrary to a functioning government run by professionals of all kinds. When people fear being fired for actions they take on the job, the agency ceases to function effectively.

By and large, most people who work for federal agencies should be experts in their fields. I think what Trump wants is a return to the old patronage system, which was so corrupt the government essentially didn't work.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. First offical shot at
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 03:17 PM
Jan 2018

passing the Koch Brothers Anti Union Legislation. Same verbiage used by Scott Walker a few years back.

For those who want the bottom line,Trump purposed a Right to Work National Law.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,013 posts)
7. Trump ignores such history, of course. Or he'd know it's a slippery slope...
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:49 PM
Jan 2018

Truman's Executive Order 9835 and what followed.

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avebury

(10,952 posts)
8. "remove federal employees who undermine the public trust or fail the American people"
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:55 PM
Jan 2018

That would mean that everyone in the Trump WH and his entire Cabinet would have to go.

barbtries

(28,789 posts)
11. i haven't heard the whole speech by a long shot
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:15 PM
Jan 2018

but (and i think you'll be glad to hear this) this quote was one of the first i became aware of. i have already shared it on twitter. i think it is a call to end democracy as we know it in the USA and one person remarked, "This is Stephen Miller." yeah i can believe that.

TygrBright

(20,759 posts)
15. I think you're right. It's got that Miller stench.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:39 PM
Jan 2018

But it was on the teleprompter because it appeals to >Redacted's< simplistic, dichotomous view of reality.

A dangerous combination: Stupid autocrat wannabe and accomplished behind-the-scenes manipulator.

disgustedly,
Bright

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
12. Yep.....
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:25 PM
Jan 2018

just another method for Orange-Hitler to demand loyalty from Federal employees.

Disgusting, and probably illegal (if we had a Congress to call him on it).

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
14. OMG. That is shocking. He wants to purge all those whose spouses didn't vote for him.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:03 PM
Jan 2018

That's another reason he wanted the VOTER DATA FROM ALL THE STATES.

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