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Are the democrats about to fold ? (Original Post) drray23 Jan 2018 OP
*Or* - are they *NOT*?!1 UTUSN Jan 2018 #1
hopefully they stay strong. drray23 Jan 2018 #5
According to Mazie Hirono, nothing has changed. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #2
the whole thing bdamomma Jan 2018 #3
Depends on how temporary customerserviceguy Jan 2018 #4
even a few days would be bad for the optics. drray23 Jan 2018 #6
It all depends on what comes out of it customerserviceguy Jan 2018 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Kajun Gal Jan 2018 #8
They'd better not. This is Trump's shutdown. Don't betray the Dreamers mainer Jan 2018 #9
I want names and states. BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #10
political card playing. if there are plenty of votes, a few can be spared for political reasons nt msongs Jan 2018 #11
YES!!! drray23 Jan 2018 #12

drray23

(7,637 posts)
5. hopefully they stay strong.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 10:10 PM
Jan 2018

senator hirono just left the room and is live on Rachel. I am a bit reassured since she is saying the majority of the caucus is holding strong and they are still caucusing.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,836 posts)
2. According to Mazie Hirono, nothing has changed.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 10:08 PM
Jan 2018

The meeting is still going on but it doesn't sound like they are going to fold.

bdamomma

(63,922 posts)
3. the whole thing
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 10:09 PM
Jan 2018

sucks. Screwing children for CHIP and the Dreamers, but tax cuts for the filthy rich.

Fuck Trump he wants to go to his fucking $100,000-250,000 a plate party at mar-a-lago.

Repigs can't govern for shit. Perfect time for a massive march!!!!

drray23

(7,637 posts)
6. even a few days would be bad for the optics.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 10:11 PM
Jan 2018

I know they may try that in order to buy time for negociations but it would still hurt.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
7. It all depends on what comes out of it
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 10:13 PM
Jan 2018

A few days or a week with something most of us can live with, OK. A delay of any length with nothing productive as a result, then there is hell to pay.

Response to drray23 (Original post)

mainer

(12,029 posts)
9. They'd better not. This is Trump's shutdown. Don't betray the Dreamers
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 10:16 PM
Jan 2018

I don't (to my knowledge) personally even know any Dreamers. But I, like most Americans, know what is fair and what is betrayal. And I say, bring on the shutdown. We have to honor our promise to DACA.

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