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Morning Joe goes off on Rep. Nunes (Original Post) L. Coyote Dec 2017 OP
Who told Ryan to appoint a dairy farmer to the Intelligence Committee? Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #1
What is it about dairy farmers you don't like? Harry Truman was a haberdasher. marble falls Dec 2017 #10
I don't think he was shitting on dairy farmers Soylent Henry Dec 2017 #17
But stay out of the Senate and especially any Senate committee, right????? marble falls Dec 2017 #19
Sorry, but I'm putting you on Ignore Soylent Henry Dec 2017 #21
Poor guy. Hates to directly answer a straight question. If one can't take the heat...... marble falls Dec 2017 #24
Well, duh, I'm not shitting on dairy farmers. Nor haberdashers (only you mention that). Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #22
But former comedians do. marble falls Dec 2017 #25
Franken has a degree in Political Science & was foremost a writer. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #27
When was this? Joe's been on vaca for a while. ??? nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #2
the agents of the fbi and other federal agencies are sworn to protect AllaN01Bear Dec 2017 #3
AllaN01Bear, I've always wondered... KY_EnviroGuy Dec 2017 #6
ive always wanted to see a lawsuit forcing our country to live by its "pledges AllaN01Bear Dec 2017 #37
I am glad Morning Joe has realized his mistake rainin Dec 2017 #4
"so Joe should have known. He just didn't care". Hayduke Bomgarte Dec 2017 #5
Joe didn't realize any mistake, he just got pissed off when it got personal about him. marble falls Dec 2017 #9
As mentioned above, Nunes was a dairy farmer Soylent Henry Dec 2017 #7
Dairy farmers are clueless as a class? I think you need to get a clue.... marble falls Dec 2017 #8
Dairy Farmers Are Not A Class ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #11
Its a class as soon as it gets it gets defined by a common factor. Dairy farmers file class action.. marble falls Dec 2017 #12
My Dad Was A Milkman ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #15
Bless your dad. Mine was a professor but we loved him anyway.... marble falls Dec 2017 #16
Insults? ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #35
Would you hire an FBI agent born and raised in NYC to manage a farm? Soylent Henry Dec 2017 #13
Would you hire a comedian to: marble falls Dec 2017 #18
Duh. Al Franken has a degree in Political Science. He then became a writer. He is a thoughtful man. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #28
You seem to have the mistaken belief I don't think Al Franken is a great man .... marble falls Dec 2017 #31
Being dairy farmer doesn't "preclude" being good person, but doesn't predict investigation skill. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #33
That exactly right. My point exactly. Nunes is asimple ass and not because he used to be a,,,, marble falls Dec 2017 #34
You're Point Exactly? ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #36
Nunes is too close to Trump..... UCmeNdc Dec 2017 #14
Absolutely, Nunes has demonstrated a dog-like attatchment to the President. marble falls Dec 2017 #20
Plus Nunes ran to the WH in middle of one night to give them a heads up about the investigation. nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #23
That is the worst thing he could do. If a DA did that he'd be out of office in a heartbeat.... marble falls Dec 2017 #26
I think Joe is trying to get back in the House, an NY or Wash seat would fit his ego. CK_John Dec 2017 #29
He renounced the GOP as being his former party a while back Zambero Dec 2017 #30
Maybe he should buy a dairy in Nunes' district and run there ..... L. Coyote Dec 2017 #32

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,047 posts)
1. Who told Ryan to appoint a dairy farmer to the Intelligence Committee?
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 07:45 PM
Dec 2017

Nunes is out of his depth attempting to participate in a coverup and is thereby inflicting himself with a thousand cuts, which leads to political and judicial _______ (fill in the blank).

 

Soylent Henry

(32 posts)
17. I don't think he was shitting on dairy farmers
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 10:19 AM
Dec 2017

I think he was talking about the equivalent of hiring a veterinarian to do your plumbing. And, for the record, farmers and fishers are the two occupations I personally admire the most, because they feed us!

If you, by chance happen to be a farmer of any kind, my hat is off to you, and please keep doing your very necessary work!

marble falls

(57,355 posts)
19. But stay out of the Senate and especially any Senate committee, right?????
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 10:30 AM
Dec 2017

Too bad Al Franken didn't stick to comedy, you know what mean - carpenters and plumbing?




Minority members

Democrats

Dianne Feinstein - California
Ron Wyden - Oregon
Martin Heinrich - New Mexico
Angus King - Maine
Joe Manchin - West Virginia
Kamala Harris - California

Other than none of them are dairy farmers - what makes them qualified for their seats?

For that matter what makes any member of this committee Democratic or Republican specifically qualified for this committee??

 

Soylent Henry

(32 posts)
21. Sorry, but I'm putting you on Ignore
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 10:38 AM
Dec 2017

You're obviously a very angry person, and would probably react with rage if I told you that puppies are cute! Goodbye, and I hope you can develop a more upbeat attitude on things.

marble falls

(57,355 posts)
24. Poor guy. Hates to directly answer a straight question. If one can't take the heat......
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 10:47 AM
Dec 2017

one shouldn't make thoughtless insulting comments about other peoples professions.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,047 posts)
22. Well, duh, I'm not shitting on dairy farmers. Nor haberdashers (only you mention that).
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 10:39 AM
Dec 2017

It's just that a dairy farmer does not have as much experience in investigation and questioning as do lawyers or scientists (damn few of those in Congress) or other professions represented in Congress.

I suspect Nunes was chosen because he is a compliant stooge. He could have taken over the powerful Ways & Means Committee when Ryan left it to become Speaker, but Ryan asked him to stay on at Intell.

Nunes investigated Benghazi for two years and was forced to issue a report debunking the outrageous claims against Obama and Clinton. Forced by Democrats who held the line against the Republicans.

AllaN01Bear

(18,534 posts)
3. the agents of the fbi and other federal agencies are sworn to protect
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 08:21 PM
Dec 2017

and defend the constitiution of the united states and not u and u swore to that oath before you came into office , mr trump

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,496 posts)
6. AllaN01Bear, I've always wondered...
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 08:46 PM
Dec 2017

if and how elected officials can be held accountable for violating their oaths. McConnell has be violating his for many years with his hundreds of lies.

I also feel the CongressCritters that signed Grover Norquist's "Taxpayer Protection Pledge" violate their oaths with that signature.


AllaN01Bear

(18,534 posts)
37. ive always wanted to see a lawsuit forcing our country to live by its "pledges
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 08:39 PM
Dec 2017

oaths and codes . " otherwise i feel that this contry is moot.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
4. I am glad Morning Joe has realized his mistake
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 08:24 PM
Dec 2017

in supporting Trump, but I haven't forgiven how enthusiastically he supported Trump during the election. Even after the election, he kept acting like Trump would pivot any day to act Presidential. Day after day, he kept acting surprised when Trump wouldn't pivot.

I remember several times, when Trump wasn't HORRIBLE, Joe would declare how presidential he was. It made me sick.

Finally, after Trump went after both he and Mika on twitter, he decided that Trump had "changed". Joe decided that Trump wasn't the same person he was when they were all friends for many decades.

How did Trump change, I wondered? I've heard that New Yorkers knew what a horrible person Trump was, but apparently, Joe was ok with all of it.

Don't forget that. Joe is part of the reason Trump is where he is. It was knowable to democrats that Trump would make a terrible CIC, so Joe should have known. He just didn't care.

 

Soylent Henry

(32 posts)
7. As mentioned above, Nunes was a dairy farmer
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 10:17 PM
Dec 2017

Therefore, exactly the kind of committee chair the Republicans like: a man who has no clue what he's doing!

marble falls

(57,355 posts)
8. Dairy farmers are clueless as a class? I think you need to get a clue....
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 09:17 AM
Dec 2017

What other classes do you care to share your bigotry about, my inquiring mind would like to know.

marble falls

(57,355 posts)
12. Its a class as soon as it gets it gets defined by a common factor. Dairy farmers file class action..
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 09:41 AM
Dec 2017

suits.

http://www.classactionrebates.com/settlements/northeast-dairy-farmer/

in which dairy farmers as a class sued milk distributors for price fixing.

I suspect you might have little respect for dairy farmers.

marble falls

(57,355 posts)
16. Bless your dad. Mine was a professor but we loved him anyway....
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 10:18 AM
Dec 2017

Insults? Is THAT all you got? Pathetic.

ProfessorGAC

(65,248 posts)
35. Insults?
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 01:25 PM
Dec 2017

There was NOTHING in my post that could be taken as an insult! You got whooped and you don't like it.
BTW: You do realize that the "class" in that lawsuit was the plaintiffs, meaning the consumer. The aggrieved party was an entire class of people, in this case any consumer who paid too much for milk to to collusion.
The dairy farmers weren't the class in this class suit. Especially, (read the whole complaint), since they sued caries too.

 

Soylent Henry

(32 posts)
13. Would you hire an FBI agent born and raised in NYC to manage a farm?
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 10:05 AM
Dec 2017
That's what I meant! It's like appointing an oil-company guy to run the State Department!

marble falls

(57,355 posts)
18. Would you hire a comedian to:
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 10:20 AM
Dec 2017

Committee and Subcommittee Assignments

Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions (HELP)

Subcommittees:

Employment and Workplace Safety (Ranking Member)
Children and Families

Committee on the Judiciary

Subcommittees:

Privacy, Technology, and the Law (Ranking Member)
Antitrust, Competition Policy, and Consumer Rights
The Constitution
Crime and Terrorism
Immigration and the National Interest



Few have any experience in their committee posts and it doesn't mean they are competent or not. Al Franken did great work on his committees: we are losing a great man.

marble falls

(57,355 posts)
31. You seem to have the mistaken belief I don't think Al Franken is a great man ....
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 11:13 AM
Dec 2017

if you do you are seriously mistaken. Charles Grassley earned a B.A. an M.A. in education. Also during the 1950s, Grassley farmed and worked in factories in Iowa, first as a sheet metal shearer and then as an assembly line worker. He pursued a Ph.D. in political science at the University of Iowa, but ultimately did not complete the degree. From 1967–1968, Grassley taught at Charles City College, and both he and Kevin Nunes who has an associate of arts degree from the College of the Sequoias, and graduated from Cal Poly with a bachelor's degree in agricultural business and a master's degree in agriculture are both dismal jackasses and don't hold a candle anywhere near Al Franken's depth of ability and work ethic.

Al Franken would make a very good President.

My point is that being a dairyman precludes no-one from being a good man and elected official anymore than being a profession comedian and comedy writer meant that Al Franken was at sea over women's rights or immigration policy or over judicial appointments cause he surely had a grasp on all that and more. And from the examples of Nunes and Grassley education and degrees are no certain indication of competency in even being a mindful human beings, another place where Al Franken has to rate in the 99 percentile.

Al Franken will be effective no matter where he choses to go. Governor sounds good. Maybe back to the Senate if the opportunity presents itself. Or even dairy farming. But Nunes? Doesn't matter where he goes, what he does, he's mediocre - even as a dairy farmer.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,047 posts)
33. Being dairy farmer doesn't "preclude" being good person, but doesn't predict investigation skill.
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 12:09 PM
Dec 2017

Nunes was obviously chosen for compliancy rather than investigative skill or Intell expertise.

He's clearly not a thinker and is more reactive than proactive.

marble falls

(57,355 posts)
34. That exactly right. My point exactly. Nunes is asimple ass and not because he used to be a,,,,
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 12:25 PM
Dec 2017

dairy farmer. Dairy farmers have made good elected officials and I know of at least one, even if he was a Republican.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Cullen_Adams

Another Dairyman elected to Congress:

Henry Cullen Adams

Member of the U.S. House of Representatives
from Wisconsin's 2nd district
In office
March 4, 1903 – July 9, 1906

Born November 28, 1850
Verona, New York
Died July 9, 1906 (aged 55)
Chicago, Illinois
Political party Republican

Henry Cullen Adams (November 28, 1850 – July 9, 1906) was an American farmer, public official, and U. S. Congressman from Wisconsin, best known for his support of pure food laws.

Adams grew up on a farm in southern Wisconsin. He attended the University of Wisconsin–Madison, but withdrew for health reasons before earning a degree. After marrying Anne Burkley Norton in 1878, he operated a successful dairy and fruit farm and served as president of the Wisconsin Dairymen's Association. He was elected to the Wisconsin State Assembly in 1883 and served until 1887, when he became a member of the Wisconsin Board of Agriculture (1887–95). He also held the offices of Wisconsin Superintendent of Public Property (1889–91) and Food and Dairy Commissioner (1898-1902).

In 1902, Adams was elected to the United States House of Representatives from the 2nd District of Wisconsin to the 58th United States Congress and was reelected to the 59th Congress serving until his death (March 4, 1903 - July 9, 1906). He was a progressive Republican and supporter of Robert M. La Follette, Sr. He worked for passage of the Meat Inspection Act and the Pure Food and Drug Act. He died of intestinal illness in 1906 in Chicago, while en route from Washington D.C. to his home in Wisconsin. He is buried in Madison, Wisconsin.


From back in the day when Republicans wrote legislation for regulations for public safety and broke up trusts and monopolies.

ProfessorGAC

(65,248 posts)
36. You're Point Exactly?
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 06:06 PM
Dec 2017

That's the complete opposite of your "point"!
Here's a tip: read what you wrote before Post!
You clearly didn't

UCmeNdc

(9,601 posts)
14. Nunes is too close to Trump.....
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 10:06 AM
Dec 2017

1. Nunes was at the meeting with Michael Flynn and the Turkish agents with plans to kidnap a US citizen.
2. Nunes was at the GOP convention meeting with the Soviet Spymaster.
3. Nunes was part of the Donald Trump transition team along with Mike Pence.

marble falls

(57,355 posts)
26. That is the worst thing he could do. If a DA did that he'd be out of office in a heartbeat....
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 10:51 AM
Dec 2017

and in front of a grand jury.

Zambero

(8,974 posts)
30. He renounced the GOP as being his former party a while back
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 11:12 AM
Dec 2017

I wouldn't rule out another run at some point. In addition to the "where" aspect, I'm wondering if he would choose to run as an independent, a newly cast Dem a-la Charlie Crist, or return to the fold as an establishment / anti-Trump Republican?

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
32. Maybe he should buy a dairy in Nunes' district and run there .....
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 12:02 PM
Dec 2017

He could milk that job for a decade ....

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