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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 01:31 PM Dec 2017

New: How the Russia Inquiry Began: A Campaign Aide, Drinks and Talk of Political Dirt

How the Russia Inquiry Began: A Campaign Aide, Drinks and Talk of Political Dirt

WASHINGTON — During a night of heavy drinking at an upscale London bar in May 2016, George Papadopoulos, a young foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, made a startling revelation to Australia’s top diplomat in Britain: Russia had political dirt on Hillary Clinton.

About three weeks earlier, Mr. Papadopoulos had been told that Moscow had thousands of emails that would embarrass Mrs. Clinton, apparently stolen in an effort to try to damage her campaign.

Exactly how much Mr. Papadopoulos said that night at the Kensington Wine Rooms with the Australian, Alexander Downer, is unclear. But two months later, when leaked Democratic emails began appearing online, Australian officials passed the information about Mr. Papadopoulos to their American counterparts, according to four current and former American and foreign officials with direct knowledge of the Australians’ role.

The hacking and the revelation that a member of the Trump campaign may have had inside information about it were driving factors that led the F.B.I. to open an investigation in July 2016 into Russia’s attempts to disrupt the election and whether any of President Trump’s associates conspired.

Great, interesting article. More: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/us/politics/how-fbi-russia-investigation-began-george-papadopoulos.html?_r=1


Some characters mentioned:

George Papadopoulos
Alexander Downer (Australian)
Sam Clovis
Joseph Mifsud, a Maltese professor
Olga Polonskaya (falsely described as Mr. Putin’s niece)
Ivan Timofeev (program director for the Valdai Discussion Club, a gathering of academics that meets annually with Mr. Putin.)
Igor S. Ivanov (elder statesmen)
Jeff Sessions
Stephen Miller
Carter Page
Stephen K. Bannon
Sergei Millian
Michael T. Flynn


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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
1. Another snip
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 01:34 PM
Dec 2017
A Secretive Investigation

Once the information Mr. Papadopoulos had disclosed to the Australian diplomat reached the F.B.I., the bureau opened an investigation that became one of its most closely guarded secrets. Senior agents did not discuss it at the daily morning briefing, a classified setting where officials normally speak freely about highly sensitive operations.

Besides the information from the Australians, the investigation was also propelled by intelligence from other friendly governments, including the British and Dutch. A trip to Moscow by another adviser, Carter Page, also raised concerns at the F.B.I.

With so many strands coming in — about Mr. Papadopoulos, Mr. Page, the hackers and more — F.B.I. agents debated how aggressively to investigate the campaign’s Russia ties, according to current and former officials familiar with the debate. Issuing subpoenas or questioning people, for example, could cause the investigation to burst into public view in the final months of a presidential campaign.

It could also tip off the Russian government, which might try to cover its tracks. Some officials argued against taking such disruptive steps, especially since the F.B.I. would not be able to unravel the case before the election.
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. Hunch says,
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 01:59 PM
Dec 2017

this revelation is scaring the bejebus out of the Rethugs today.

Lose lips sinks ships.

Glass of Wine and you do the time.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
13. These
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 02:21 PM
Dec 2017

treasonous actions by the Trump Campaign and Administration,should have been exposed months ago had the Press done it's job as the Fourth Estate.


Interesting how the Foreign Press seems to be the consistent diggers of information about this corrupt administration. Tells us the real story of money controlling the media as well as the Political discourse .

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