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How the Russia Inquiry Began: A Campaign Aide, Drinks and Talk of Political Dirt
WASHINGTON During a night of heavy drinking at an upscale London bar in May 2016, George Papadopoulos, a young foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, made a startling revelation to Australias top diplomat in Britain: Russia had political dirt on Hillary Clinton.
About three weeks earlier, Mr. Papadopoulos had been told that Moscow had thousands of emails that would embarrass Mrs. Clinton, apparently stolen in an effort to try to damage her campaign.
Exactly how much Mr. Papadopoulos said that night at the Kensington Wine Rooms with the Australian, Alexander Downer, is unclear. But two months later, when leaked Democratic emails began appearing online, Australian officials passed the information about Mr. Papadopoulos to their American counterparts, according to four current and former American and foreign officials with direct knowledge of the Australians role.
The hacking and the revelation that a member of the Trump campaign may have had inside information about it were driving factors that led the F.B.I. to open an investigation in July 2016 into Russias attempts to disrupt the election and whether any of President Trumps associates conspired.
Great, interesting article. More: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/us/politics/how-fbi-russia-investigation-began-george-papadopoulos.html?_r=1
WASHINGTON During a night of heavy drinking at an upscale London bar in May 2016, George Papadopoulos, a young foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, made a startling revelation to Australias top diplomat in Britain: Russia had political dirt on Hillary Clinton.
About three weeks earlier, Mr. Papadopoulos had been told that Moscow had thousands of emails that would embarrass Mrs. Clinton, apparently stolen in an effort to try to damage her campaign.
Exactly how much Mr. Papadopoulos said that night at the Kensington Wine Rooms with the Australian, Alexander Downer, is unclear. But two months later, when leaked Democratic emails began appearing online, Australian officials passed the information about Mr. Papadopoulos to their American counterparts, according to four current and former American and foreign officials with direct knowledge of the Australians role.
The hacking and the revelation that a member of the Trump campaign may have had inside information about it were driving factors that led the F.B.I. to open an investigation in July 2016 into Russias attempts to disrupt the election and whether any of President Trumps associates conspired.
Great, interesting article. More: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/us/politics/how-fbi-russia-investigation-began-george-papadopoulos.html?_r=1
Some characters mentioned:
George Papadopoulos
Alexander Downer (Australian)
Sam Clovis
Joseph Mifsud, a Maltese professor
Olga Polonskaya (falsely described as Mr. Putins niece)
Ivan Timofeev (program director for the Valdai Discussion Club, a gathering of academics that meets annually with Mr. Putin.)
Igor S. Ivanov (elder statesmen)
Jeff Sessions
Stephen Miller
Carter Page
Stephen K. Bannon
Sergei Millian
Michael T. Flynn
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New: How the Russia Inquiry Began: A Campaign Aide, Drinks and Talk of Political Dirt (Original Post)
MelissaB
Dec 2017
OP
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)1. Another snip
A Secretive Investigation
Once the information Mr. Papadopoulos had disclosed to the Australian diplomat reached the F.B.I., the bureau opened an investigation that became one of its most closely guarded secrets. Senior agents did not discuss it at the daily morning briefing, a classified setting where officials normally speak freely about highly sensitive operations.
Besides the information from the Australians, the investigation was also propelled by intelligence from other friendly governments, including the British and Dutch. A trip to Moscow by another adviser, Carter Page, also raised concerns at the F.B.I.
With so many strands coming in about Mr. Papadopoulos, Mr. Page, the hackers and more F.B.I. agents debated how aggressively to investigate the campaigns Russia ties, according to current and former officials familiar with the debate. Issuing subpoenas or questioning people, for example, could cause the investigation to burst into public view in the final months of a presidential campaign.
It could also tip off the Russian government, which might try to cover its tracks. Some officials argued against taking such disruptive steps, especially since the F.B.I. would not be able to unravel the case before the election.
Once the information Mr. Papadopoulos had disclosed to the Australian diplomat reached the F.B.I., the bureau opened an investigation that became one of its most closely guarded secrets. Senior agents did not discuss it at the daily morning briefing, a classified setting where officials normally speak freely about highly sensitive operations.
Besides the information from the Australians, the investigation was also propelled by intelligence from other friendly governments, including the British and Dutch. A trip to Moscow by another adviser, Carter Page, also raised concerns at the F.B.I.
With so many strands coming in about Mr. Papadopoulos, Mr. Page, the hackers and more F.B.I. agents debated how aggressively to investigate the campaigns Russia ties, according to current and former officials familiar with the debate. Issuing subpoenas or questioning people, for example, could cause the investigation to burst into public view in the final months of a presidential campaign.
It could also tip off the Russian government, which might try to cover its tracks. Some officials argued against taking such disruptive steps, especially since the F.B.I. would not be able to unravel the case before the election.
Cha
(297,832 posts)10. Holy Wow.. loose lips in Wine Bars
hopefully sinks trumputin.
AmericanActivist
(1,019 posts)2. K n R nm
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)3. Berry berry inter-esting.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)4. Hunch says,
this revelation is scaring the bejebus out of the Rethugs today.
Lose lips sinks ships.
Glass of Wine and you do the time.
Cha
(297,832 posts)11. I know, right!
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)13. These
treasonous actions by the Trump Campaign and Administration,should have been exposed months ago had the Press done it's job as the Fourth Estate.
Interesting how the Foreign Press seems to be the consistent diggers of information about this corrupt administration. Tells us the real story of money controlling the media as well as the Political discourse .
AmericanActivist
(1,019 posts)5. Another thread on this topic
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)6. Baby canon action here:
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,320 posts)7. K&R
triron
(22,027 posts)8. kick for visibility
Cha
(297,832 posts)9. Mahalo for the very
interesting OP, Melissa!
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)12. K&R