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riversedge

(70,351 posts)
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 01:31 PM Dec 2017

MSNBCs Joy Reid just revealed what everyone missed about Trumps bizarre NY Times interview

We have a senile crook in the Oval office. Yes. we. do.



MSNBC’s Joy Reid just revealed what everyone missed about Trump’s bizarre NY Times interview

http://washingtonpress.com/2017/12/29/msnbcs-joy-reid-just-revealed-everyone-missed-trumps-bizarre-ny-times-interview/




By Peter Mellado
Published on December 29, 2017


MSNBC news host Joy Reid published an epic Twitter thread following the release of President Trump’s recent interview with the New York Times. The interview caught everyone by surprise, first and foremost because it was with the Times, publication with which the president has been incredibly hostile, but also for his calculated language and his trademark self-promotional flourishes with little if any basis in facts.

As many as 24 claims Trump made in the 30 minute interview have been rated false or misleading by the Washington Post, and more than a few experts have commented on the president’s mental state after reading the transcripts released by the New York Times.

Joy Reid took a slightly different tack. She began her flurry with an observation about the president’s tone in the interview, saying, “Trump speaks a lot like a child does. Lots of focus on who likes him, who loves him, who is his friend… his biographers all emphasize his deep desire to be loved & it comes through.”


In a subsequent set of tweets, she focused on what she called Trump’s “autocrat’s impulse” when it came to governing, adding that “He literally adopted a “Godfather” phraseology to all but say Democrats could have avoided blue state tax hikes via SALT if they had “come to him” to plead for his largesse.”...........................................................


Joy Reid?Verified account @JoyAnnReid

Now that I’ve read the entire transcript of @nytmike’s Trump interview, a few observations:
1. Trump speaks a lot like a child does. Lots of focus on who likes him, who loves him, who is his friend... his biographers all emphasize his deep desire to be loved & it comes through.
10:13 PM - 28 Dec 2017




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?Verified account @JoyAnnReid
Dec 28

2. Trump repeats whatever he is fixated on over and over again. I counted 15 “no collusion” repeats, sometimes two or three times in a single paragraph. And he keeps returning over and over again to the election and how he managed to win via the Electoral College. He’s fixated.
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Joy Reid
?Verified account @JoyAnnReid
Dec 28

3. Trump things being president means he can do whatever he wants. He has an autocrat's impulse, and believes literally everyone in government, from the attorney general to every member of Congress, essentially works for him, owes him loyalty, and must "come to him" for mercy.
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Joy Reid
?Verified account @JoyAnnReid
Dec 28

He literally adopted a "Godfather" phraseology to all but say Democrats could have avoided blue state tax hikes via SALT if they had "come to him" to plead for his largesse. It's a combination of the impulses of 1. and 3.
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Joy Reid
?Verified account @JoyAnnReid
Dec 28

4. Trump thinks he is still the star of a TV show, and that the media has the power to decide who wins elections, based on ratings. Seriously:
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Joy Reid Verified account @JoyAnnReid
Dec 28








5. Trump invents his own reality, and then states that everybody else believes his version of reality too.
And since he is so transparent, it's hard to argue that this is a strategy, rather than a form of self-delusion or just stubborn refusal to accept what is real.
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Joy Reid
?Verified account @JoyAnnReid






There are literally no Democrats who believe that. None. But he repeats that over and over in the interview.

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Joy Reid
?Verified account @JoyAnnReid
Dec 28

I've never observed anyone who is more precisely like his biographers have described him. And Trump's biographers have, to put it mildly, not been kind. He lives inside his own reality, where he is part beloved autocrat/dictator and part main character in a never-ending TV show.
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Joy Reid Verified account @JoyAnnReid
Dec 28

It is absolutely stunning that this person is president of the United States.

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Joy Reid
?Verified account @JoyAnnReid
Dec 28

I'm not sure, by the way, what this means for Democrats. Trump clearly assumes that they HAVE NO CHOICE but to come crawling to him to do infrastructure, DACA, and inexplicably, to make a new, *better* healthcare (he specifically says "not Obamacare."
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Joy Reid
?Verified account @JoyAnnReid
Dec 28

He clearly thinks this will happen, and that somehow magically, they will "do bipartisan." That's his actual phrase: "do bipartisan." Not "do bipartisan legislation," just "do bipartisan." He thinks it naturally will happen.

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Joy Reid
?Verified account @JoyAnnReid
Dec 28

If Democrats go along, it will only feed his grandiosity. If they don't, it feeds his rage and opens the black hole of vengeance inside him, which he could take out on them, vulnerable populations, maybe other countries (war is still not unthinkable...) I just don't know.

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Joy Reid Verified account @JoyAnnReid
Dec 28

But it's absolutely stunning that this is what's happening. But it is what's happening.

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Joy Reid Verified account @JoyAnnReid
Dec 28

Here's the transcript. Enjoy.



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MSNBCs Joy Reid just revealed what everyone missed about Trumps bizarre NY Times interview (Original Post) riversedge Dec 2017 OP
Watch Joy Reid's Wellstone ruled Dec 2017 #1
Not to nitpick ................ it is Cay Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #6
Sorry,you are correct. Wellstone ruled Dec 2017 #9
just wanted to avoid any confusion for people if they looked him up Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #12
Cool. He's also a DU member and did some good reporting in the run-up to 2016 election. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #17
David Cay Johnston, actually. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2017 #31
ODE to Joy.................. ProudMNDemocrat Dec 2017 #2
Bookmarking for the link to The Transcript Hekate Dec 2017 #3
What trashbag tRUMP forgets is that the media was there before his orange ass and they Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #4
Still has daddy issues................bookmarked Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #5
and mommy ones too malaise Dec 2017 #13
I have not read much about his mother Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #23
Does he want to grab her by the pu$$y too? RainCaster Dec 2017 #33
Who knows? malaise Dec 2017 #34
Uhhhhh......did you forget summik? Gabi Hayes Dec 2017 #43
K&R... spanone Dec 2017 #7
Do you think he ever reads or catches wind about any criticism of himself? smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #8
Absolutely he does. subterranean Dec 2017 #19
He reads what his staff puts into his two daily "happy folders" BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #21
Any questions to him about why our Niger soldiers weren't reinforced properly ffr Dec 2017 #10
Stunning and frightening.It's not out of interest onit2day Dec 2017 #11
t-rump should not be there in the WH. Iliyah Dec 2017 #14
This Mans Insecurities is Leading the Rest of the Population to Be Insecure, too Ccarmona Dec 2017 #15
Happy New Year from Kauai, Cha Dec 2017 #27
Joy Reid 2020! sagesnow Dec 2017 #16
Yeah! If a stupid Cha Dec 2017 #29
"It is absolutely stunning that this person is president of the United States." Martin Eden Dec 2017 #18
Shocking revlation Jspur Dec 2017 #20
Time to get agressive with the truth No-Bozos Dec 2017 #22
K & R. Good thoughts. It's as if our media is scared of Trump! KY_EnviroGuy Dec 2017 #45
Good on JOy Reid.. Excellent OP, Cha Dec 2017 #24
I don't get it. What's Joy Reid's big insight? aikoaiko Dec 2017 #25
There wasn't one oberliner Dec 2017 #28
Insight: maryallen Dec 2017 #35
That hardly seems like something everyone else missed. aikoaiko Dec 2017 #37
Zero. I'm not seeing anything I hadn't KPN Dec 2017 #36
I saw the segment. The NYT interview transcript came in just as she was signing off on Rachel's show. Rhiannon12866 Dec 2017 #42
She should maybe consider proofreading her tweets oberliner Dec 2017 #26
Remember in I, Claudius, where John Hurt's Caligula declared himself a God? dixiegrrrrl Dec 2017 #30
Its on you tube....saw it a few months ago, anyway Gabi Hayes Dec 2017 #44
When I first saw it on PBS back in the long ago dixiegrrrrl Dec 2017 #53
Wasn't it Gabi Hayes Dec 2017 #55
Maybe Trump thought that PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2017 #32
Imagine how mangled the parts NYT redacted are. I want the whole transcript, not just excerpts. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #38
Gee, it's almost like he's just a figurehead, or puppet... Crash2Parties Dec 2017 #39
Joy Reid!!! AugustusRising Dec 2017 #40
I like them both. DesertRat Dec 2017 #49
When she's on other shows as a guest DeminPennswoods Dec 2017 #41
LOVE ME Goonch Dec 2017 #46
Joy is great NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #47
Trump thinks he's starring in a TV reality show FakeNoose Dec 2017 #48
We are truly living in bizarroland. We really have to get out of this country. Why oh why did my kerry-is-my-prez Dec 2017 #50
Pretty well F**** up Timewas Dec 2017 #51
He is a child, he has never grown up. redstatebluegirl Dec 2017 #52
Huh? What did everyone else miss? KPN Dec 2017 #54
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. Watch Joy Reid's
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 02:07 PM
Dec 2017

panel on O'Donnell Thursday,after David Kaye Johnson's comments as well as the other Panelist's,every thing one has suspected of Trump's mental make-up was once again proven as fact.


America wake the F--- Up,the Reality TV Star that sits in the Oval Office has to be removed post haste

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,811 posts)
2. ODE to Joy..................
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 02:09 PM
Dec 2017


She is spot on in her analysis of Donald Trump. He is a clear and present danger to this country and the rest of the world.

VOTE BLUE in 2018.
 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
4. What trashbag tRUMP forgets is that the media was there before his orange ass and they
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 02:10 PM
Dec 2017

will be there after him.....unless of course Russia is successful and has all American's on both sides distrusting the media. I see plenty of that from the trumpers and also from Dem's right on this site....so who the fuck knows.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
8. Do you think he ever reads or catches wind about any criticism of himself?
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 02:23 PM
Dec 2017

And if so, do you think he ever has any flash of self-awareness or do you think he is completely in denial about who he is and how much he is hated?

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
19. Absolutely he does.
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 03:14 PM
Dec 2017

But his instinct is always to attack and try to discredit his critics. I don't believe he is capable of self-reflection or admitting that he is anything less than perfect. Whenever anything he does goes wrong, it is always, always somebody else's fault. If someone calls him out on one of his lies -- uh, sorry, "misleading statements" -- his response is always "That's what I was told" or "That's the information I was given." Or he just tweets "FAKE NEWS." That's the extent of his introspection.

BigmanPigman

(51,642 posts)
21. He reads what his staff puts into his two daily "happy folders"
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 03:25 PM
Dec 2017

and watches Fux Ruse. He was both plain crazy and crazy like a fox. I think the seriously crazy part of him is becoming bigger than the clever, crafty con man part of him and it's getting worse. The job is too much for him so he is very stressed and tired which is exasperating his mental decline. Look at how he holds his water bottle. He is a wreck and has to be remover ASAP! A delusional fake prez and his equally crazy cult/base will only continue to cause irreparable damage to our country in a million different ways.

ffr

(22,674 posts)
10. Any questions to him about why our Niger soldiers weren't reinforced properly
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 02:25 PM
Dec 2017

when their mission changed from assisting the Nigerians, to searching for a known well fortified dangerous extremist?

Or is that too unpleasant of a question to ask out of courtesy?

 

onit2day

(1,201 posts)
11. Stunning and frightening.It's not out of interest
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 02:27 PM
Dec 2017

but out of fear that we watch this president so closely. The man is insane and a low lofe without a bit of morality just self interest and delusion. We absolutely must vote all republicans out of office as they all supported him as he allowed them to loot the treasury.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
14. t-rump should not be there in the WH.
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 02:44 PM
Dec 2017

And reading that this jerkoff is determine to start a nuclear war with the help of this unqualified administration along with the blessings of the uncaring GOPs is insufferable. To read that the GOPs are changing rules to allow t-rump's unqualified judges in, the past rushed for the unthoughtful tax scram to become law, the continued damage to healthcare, and the continue assault on Medicare, Medicaid, and SS.

The total assault on Democracy and these mother***kers don't give a gawd damn. GOPers will cheat, steal and rig the 2018 elections, I have no doubt on that. We must resist, overcome, and conquer.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
15. This Mans Insecurities is Leading the Rest of the Population to Be Insecure, too
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 02:47 PM
Dec 2017

Living in Hawaii, we always are aware that our geography makes us most vulnerable to his whims. It could be a war or a natural disaster. Seeing his total disregard for any other human on the planet, gives more fuel for these feelings. At any given time, there may be only five days of supplies in the Port of Honolulu, so we’ve been instructed to have at least 14 days of non-perishable supplies on hand. Seeing how he has totally ignored Puerto Rico after their hurricane, makes us wonder, what can we expect if we befall the same fate.
HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE 🍾🌴🤙🏻

Cha

(297,812 posts)
29. Yeah! If a stupid
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 03:54 PM
Dec 2017

game show host can get in.. why not a brilliant political analyst and so much more?!

Martin Eden

(12,880 posts)
18. "It is absolutely stunning that this person is president of the United States."
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 02:58 PM
Dec 2017

We must fight against normalizing this POtuS at every opportunity.

Jspur

(578 posts)
20. Shocking revlation
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 03:23 PM
Dec 2017

by Joy when it comes to Trump that's he's mentally unstable. That's up there with the revelation of the earth being round. I think anybody with any ounce of intelligence can figure out that Trump suffers from some sort of mental illness.

No-Bozos

(51 posts)
22. Time to get agressive with the truth
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 03:31 PM
Dec 2017

First, I blame the media for the mess we are in now. They say the loudest voice is the one that is heard. Trump is loud and obnoxious and the media sucked it up. Remember the reports of how much in $$$ Trump received in free advertising? If the media had done a better job of calling out his lies, and more importantly, just ignored him, things could be different now.

Second, the media needs to do a better job at calling out FOX for what it really is, a propaganda outlet, not a news organization. A half hour show pointing out their misstatements (a.k.a., lies) and correcting them with documentation, would be great. Of course, FOX would sue for libel, but telling the truth is not libel. It won't happen, but one needs dreams in these troubling times.

However, what the media can do is spend more time calling out Trump on his lies. Take the NYT interview for example. An hour, or a front page, detailing the 24 claims, correcting them, and calling them out for what they are (lies, racist, fantasy, etc.) would be a start and what is long overdue, calling a spade, a spade.

The same tactic for his cabinet is also overdue. A great deal of damage is being done. Far more emphasis needs to be placed on the dismantling of the institutions and laws that protect us.

A company I used to work for had an informal rule, "Do the right thing". Time for the GOP to remember who they work for, the people and the constitution.

aikoaiko

(34,185 posts)
25. I don't get it. What's Joy Reid's big insight?
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 03:51 PM
Dec 2017

I can't make heads or tails of "Twitter threads". I find them unreadable.

Rhiannon12866

(206,304 posts)
42. I saw the segment. The NYT interview transcript came in just as she was signing off on Rachel's show.
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 03:10 AM
Dec 2017

Ari Melber asked her to join him on The Last Word to talk about it since he'd just gotten it too. Apparently she went through the transcript while waiting in the hall and gave a very insightful analysis, I was impressed, as well.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
30. Remember in I, Claudius, where John Hurt's Caligula declared himself a God?
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 04:17 PM
Dec 2017

This is where we are, ironically at this point of time with a man who is not living in reality.

For those who have somehow missed I Claudius tv series years ago, it is still available at places like Amazon, in dvd and in book form. Tis not to be missed.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
44. Its on you tube....saw it a few months ago, anyway
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 03:25 AM
Dec 2017

Robert Graves books, based on Suetonius, are the basis for the series, which includes Patrick Stewart as the extremely villainous Sejanus, which is saying something, when considering that cast of characters

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
53. When I first saw it on PBS back in the long ago
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 04:30 PM
Dec 2017

I thought I had heard him called "Sir Janus".....
took me awhile to figure that out.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
39. Gee, it's almost like he's just a figurehead, or puppet...
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 06:26 PM
Dec 2017

Sure, he makes a few decisions on his own when it benefits his corporations. But everything else he has done has been beyond his direct knowledge, including his appointments. Those and everything he has signed as President (rather than say, agreements with foreign despots regarding hotel/golf resort projects) came straight from the same GOP that controls Congress. He is and always has been the GOP's convenient court jester. He provides distraction while they pick our pockets. And then there is Russia/Putin. Foreign policy decisions seem to follow phone calls & meetings & rarely if ever does Congress step in to disagree. The same Congress, I'd mention, whose campaigns were funded in part by Russia via McConnell's & Ryan's PACs (not even kept secret, just lost in the noise).

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
41. When she's on other shows as a guest
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 09:37 PM
Dec 2017

she's always insightful and not usually going with the conventional wisdom as her tweets her demonstrate.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
47. Joy is great
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 12:02 PM
Dec 2017

but, MSNBC and others in the media were a huge help in legitimizing Trump as a candidate and blowing up minor issues related to Clinton while being led around by the nose by Trump and his tweets.

FakeNoose

(32,823 posts)
48. Trump thinks he's starring in a TV reality show
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 12:20 PM
Dec 2017

Yes! I've been saying this since before the RNC convention, even during the primaries it was obvious.

I remember reading articles written by people who worked with Cheeto on The Apprentice and Celebrity Apprentice. They told how it was impossible to hand him a script because he wouldn't/couldn't follow it. The show runners learned early on that Trump would just say whatever popped into his head (including a lot of racist, sexist garbage) and they just had to edit everything out later to make the show.

On those shows Trump had nothing to do with selecting the "winners" and "losers" or how the show was run. All he had to do was show up on the set and bloviate his bullshit, but he was given all the credit. That's how this guy's world works, and apparently Trump had no clue about how weird that was. To him it was totally normal, because it's probably how he operates his businesses as well.

Now we're seeing that he thinks "government" works the same way. It's totally ludicrous!
Joy Reid has really got his number.





kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
50. We are truly living in bizarroland. We really have to get out of this country. Why oh why did my
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 03:01 PM
Dec 2017

ancestors have to move here from the Netherlands?

Timewas

(2,196 posts)
51. Pretty well F**** up
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 03:15 PM
Dec 2017

He has the idea that as "president" it is the same as CEO of any corporation but his is without a board of directors so he is the BOSS Total delusional state

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
52. He is a child, he has never grown up.
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 03:26 PM
Dec 2017

He has been given everything he ever wanted, nobody questions him, his parents did not parent him. My guess is he was raised by a nanny not his parents. He is self absorbed very childlike.

KPN

(15,665 posts)
54. Huh? What did everyone else miss?
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 04:37 PM
Dec 2017

Nothing most of us didn't or shouldn't have already known it seems to me. This story is hyperbole.

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