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Moore's complaint is really sad but reflects the belief that the GOP considers all votes by non-whites to be fraudulent https://abovethelaw.com/2017/12/for-gop-all-black-vote-is-fraud/?rf=1
Mr. Moores court filing ran for dozens of pages, and it argued that returns in Jefferson County, the states most populous county, confirmed election fraud. It also said that turnout in the county was suspiciously high; it suggested that Mr. Jones had benefited from voter intimidation; and it argued that Mr. Moores opponents had spread lies and fraudulent misrepresentations.
For Moore and his supporters, the black vote just seems fraudulent. Not fraudulent in a way that can be supported by any evidentiary standard, but these people look at the black vote as a prima facie indication of voter fraud. If you pan the camera back from Alabama, youll find millions and millions of white people who simply cant understand the black vote. Those white people think massive, systemic voter fraud is a likely explanation. Those white people also think Occams Razor is made by Gillette......
Republicans have no desire to actually encourage black people to vote for them they dont want black people in their party beyond mere tokenism (hi Tim Scott, you keep shining those shoes and Im sure bossman McConnell will have your committee chairmanship just as soon as he can). There is no outreach, there is no even basic understanding of the issues that face black America. I promise you there isnt a Republican strategist who could even EXPLAIN whats going on between Cornel West and Ta-Nehisi Coates, much less devise a strategy to position Republican candidates on one side or the other.
I am tired of the GOP using the claim of voter fraud to try to suppress the vote. I am glad that Moore's lawsuit was rejected
dalton99a
(81,455 posts)thbobby
(1,474 posts)So the GOP suppresses their vote showing no shame.
Well, you Russian Jerk Offs
Women vote Democratic too. And their preference for Dems is growing.
Time to suppress women voters?
And, Republican Mafia
Americans vote Democratic too. Only the old white fox watching men can stomach you.
Seems a fascist state is the only solution to save your soulless mafia political party.
Trump is your Fuhrer. Too bad he is so god damn stupid. But birds of a feather flock together. Right?
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)I remember reading an article at the time of the election about black people being dropped from the rolls. If there was any cheating going on, it was the rethugs doing it!
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)The GOP uses lies about voter fraud to justify voter suppression. Voter id laws only stop one type of fraud-in person voter impersonation which is a type of fraud that does not exist in the real world. In the North Carolina, Penn., and Texas lawsuits, the GOP could not point to any examples of this type of voter fraud.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Is that moore will have been ranting about it, getting his supporters all worked up, convincing the low information voters that Dems are cheating. Yet there will be very little reporting about how wrong he was. There will be next to no reporting of voter suppression from rethugs. In the end, the narrative about how Dems cheat will remain strong.
I wish there was a way to push the voter suppression stories! I guess they just don't make for thrilling news the way moore riding his horse to the polls does.
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)The good guys won a major victory with respect to the Texas voter id law in part because the State of Texas had no proof of voter fraud. A new AG tried to argue before the trial judge that the Texas voter id law was needed due to fraud and judge jumped on her. http://www.caller.com/story/news/politics/elections/2017/02/28/voter-id-hearing-set-tuesday/98493448/
U.S. District Judge Nelva Gonzales Ramos interrupted Texas Assistant Attorney General Angela Colmenero three times during a hearing in the Corpus Christi courtroom. The judge questioned the lawyer's arguments meant to prove the legislators did not have ill intent and the law drew wide public support.
Despite these rulings, we still had GOP election workers tell voters that they needed the limited set of ids. Luckily, we had poll watchers out watching for this and got these election workers to stop lying about the law and the court's ruling.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)I can easily see them screwing over marginalized voters in 2018 and again in 2020. That's the major issue as I see it: you have these small wins, but can you really compete against tRump's commission (and the rethug narrative at large)? Kobach already has wide notoriety, for good or bad, but notoriety all the same. Everyone knows about the voter fraud commission. Think of how many low information people are willing to believe that the existence of the commission implies there is rampant voter fraud. We've had tRump pushing the fraud angle from well before November 2016, and the commission promotes that lie.
Sorry I'm being so pessimistic. I'm not trying to downplay the significance of the TX decision. I'm just mad as hell about the RW getting away with so much suppression and no one being aware of it.
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)at him enough to go bother to vote against him or stay at home if they had supported him before.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)They can't win without cheating. It makes me sick. So happy his lawsuit was rejected and voters told him to F**K OFF!
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)the election was stolen.
Remember the polls the day of the election?
It was stolen on election day by on the ground KGB agents and others flipping votes. When everybody who wants to vote is allowed to vote, we win the VAST vast majority of elections.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)...throughout 2018 and beyond.
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)There were people on the ground helping voters get around the Alabama voter id law. The GOP attempted to suppress the vote but the party and the outside groups were ready for these efforts
mythology
(9,527 posts)The polls before the election were off by less than in 2012. That is objective fact.
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/campaign/315145-one-last-look-2016-polls-actually-got-a-lot-right
Cha
(297,154 posts)Just like trumputin idiots.. whatever "fraud" or "fake" accusation trump throws out there.. the brainwashed idiots suck up.
roy moore is a poor loser and will go down in history as the racist, ugly pervert that he is.
brer cat
(24,560 posts)How typically republican.
irisblue
(32,968 posts)Al.com & Roy Moore cross posted to Alabama group
posted out of sequence
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There's irony here we can't whistle past: The former Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court lost his election court battle because the court where he filed his lawsuit said it didn't have jurisdiction to hear the case.
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No matter how rapidly he could recite scripture nor how fluidly he could quote the founding fathers, Moore was never that bright. His argument depended, in part, on the Supremacy Clause of the United States Constitution -- something Moore has been fighting against for his entire political career. But perhaps he knew that if he pleaded his case before a federal court, instead of state, he might be struck by lightning or, if not, disprove the existence of God.
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And Alabama has seen how Moore loses. In the end, it didn't matter whether he conceded or not. There's no law that says the election doesn't count if he doesn't concede, any more than a football team may go to the playoffs if it refuses to recognize the final score.
Roy Moore was nobody's hero. But he lost, and that made this sorry movie worth watching.
Worth the time to read.