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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSuspect (Trump) raving and raging against the FBI shows that he knows they have found something
If you are an innocent person, and the President of the United States, no less, you will support the FBI investigation and ask them if they need more resources, because, in the end, they will clear your name. If you know you have done something illegal, like conspire with Russians to influence US elections, then you know the FBI knows about it, and the only option left is to rage and rave against the number 1 law enforcement agency in the world, the FBI, and quote lunatic conspiracy networks like Fox, in hopes of discrediting the result of the investigation. It is always interesting that Trump and Co. never dispute the facts uncovered by the investigation so far. They just nibble around the edges and try to bad mouth this FBI agent or that FBI agent, as if a couple of FBI agent's political views have any bearing on the actual facts of the investigation. .
C_U_L8R
(45,027 posts)but actually retweeting bogus Fox imposter accounts.
Trump's either a total moron or completely corrupt. Or both.
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)a dunce cap with horns, because I can't tell if he's dumb, evil, or both either. The result is the same unfortunately for the rest of us.
lapfog_1
(29,234 posts)between trump himself and the Russians.
he is scared to death about all of his financial dealings.
Merlot
(9,696 posts)He can (and probably will) escape the russia connection, but the money laundering is easy for the financial professionals to find. And the evidence will be inconrovertible.
azureblue
(2,154 posts)what Trump is afraid of is the exposure of his deal to launder Russian money through Trump's real estate holdings and ventures. He is afraid of the US on one side and the Russian mob on the other. This is why he will not show his taxes, too.
True Blue American
(17,995 posts)Reason he is in such a rage. Republicans know it,too. Mitch is deep in debt to Russia also.campaign contributions.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)likely crooked as hell, as well as how he gets funding, etc.
Grammy23
(5,815 posts)At least no reason NORMAL people would use. With tRump, he knows that within their pages and reams of information, too much could be gleaned about A. His true worth and B. His sneaky, snarky practices that he has used to keep as much of his money as he can. While bragging about the taxes he has paid, he has offered zero proof of that statement. Just a lot of excuses why we are not going to be allowed to see his tax returns and judge for ourselves. He knows the bloom would be off the rose if we got a real chance to see how he maintains the illusion of wealth and masterly business acumen.
As for the conspiracy or collusion charges, anyone with half a brain KNOWS that some kind of deal went down during the campaign between tRump and Russia. That much we can take to the bank. tRump is just hoping that they left enough space between him and the rest of that gang of thugs and thieves to give him breathing room.....and an escape route. But it is perfectly obvious he would not have been kept out of that loop. He likes to have his fingers on everything, as long as he thinks he can smudge the fingerprints. So, they probably did try to give him plausible deniability, but there is just one tiny fly in that ointment. His fellow conspirators like Flynn and Manafort and even Jared will try to save their own hides. It seems pretty obvious that Flynn has already sung like a canary, so loyalty is just a word to him. Faced with prison time, most anyone would co-operate with Mueller in exchange for reduced time in the slammer. So there is that. Heh, heh, heh....
lapfog_1
(29,234 posts)Trump will use the Henry II excuse to explain away the obvious Russian collusion.
Yes, his campaign will be found guilty of collusion (and likely the actual legal charge of conspiracy). Jared, Little Donnie, others who have yet to make deals with a DA, all are going down for that (mostly Jared I think).
Trump will pardon them.
Republicans will make this all out to be a "democratic witch hunt" and NOT convict (even if a Democratic House impeaches Trump in 2019).
Trump will not be removed from office (although many Republican senators might suggest resignation). The cabinet will not invoke the 25th.
However, the charges of money laundering and tax evasion and other likely financial misdeeds are likely to chase him from office. This is what he fears... to LOSE.
MFM008
(19,826 posts)Scott free.
There is always the possibility of State charges.
Oh...and that little election thing that could result
In us getting back house and Senate.
lapfog_1
(29,234 posts)even with a few patriotic republicans who understand the danger, we won't get to that number... too many still fear the rabid base
annabanana
(52,791 posts)Or are bankrolled in rubles
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)Collusion is the least of his worries now. I've been asking the MAGA folks lately to ponder this one:
How does a man with multiple bankruptcies and a reputation for fleecing both his workers and his investors manage to get such a huge credit line numbering in the hundreds of millions?
Answer: By doing unsavory things for unsavory people. There's a reason he he won't release his tax returns. I always hear a pause in the MAGA morons thought process whenever I ask them to ponder that one, kind of like, "Huh. you might have a point." And then the light bulb goes out and the faux brainwashing kicks in and they dismiss it as "fake news."
zentrum
(9,865 posts)
.has him spooked.
Not just jail time for him, but First Princess's husband and First Princess too.
GoCubsGo
(32,098 posts)He has been borrowing/laundering money from and for them for decades. This is how Putin decided he'd make a good dupe for them. But, yeah. I'm sure he's more concerned about getting caught for his financial crimes than his for his conspiring with the Russians during the election.
Yonnie3
(17,500 posts)Mueller isn't quite there yet. I also think it has to do with 45's "fortune" and the possible confiscation of that "fortune." His wealth and lifestyle are more important to him than the Presidency. 45 is trying, in his idiotic way, to force Mueller into "finishing" early. By getting the dirt they have out, he can skate on it with the Repubs in control of the Congress. In other words, better the trouble he can duck, than to loose his money. It is rather nonsensical but, this is tRump we're talking about.
Phoenix61
(17,023 posts)many shady deals over the years he knows there is more than enough info to put him in jail for years. His ranting and raving is nothing more than the tantrumming of a child who has just gotten caught with their hand in the cookie jar.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)I'm thinking absolutely certain proof of "illegitimate election" is forthcoming. Trump is trying to prop up his coup.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)About Time, and he's shown behind bars.
MontanaMama
(23,364 posts)Stolen election proof. The rest of it pales in comparison.
I have to say, on a snarky note that I am hoping for the pee pee tape release too. 😂
cilla4progress
(24,789 posts)Franken, who invited an ethics investigation!!
calimary
(81,550 posts)Last edited Fri Dec 29, 2017, 01:28 PM - Edit history (1)
This is a guy who LOVES to show off. He lives to show off!
Bill Kristol of all people just said, this very morning, that theres a lot you could do to prove your innocence. The louder he screams and attacks and distorts and misleads and tries to distract and deflect, the clearer it becomes.
This is one emperor who knows hes naked as the proverbial jaybird.
3catwoman3
(24,079 posts)-ZACTLY!!!
kentuck
(111,110 posts)Thanks!
Botany
(70,618 posts).... singing like birds Trump is lashing out and trying to change the subject. Mueller is already
after Deutche Bank, the Cypress Banks, money laundering, obstruction of justice, hopefully
election rigging, wikileaks, Cambridge Analytic, and all the CIA/FBI/NSA/US Military electronic
and voice monitoring of team Trump's Russian connections.
Please remember that Mueller got shot through the thigh in Vietnam and still went back in
and brought out all his troops including the dead and dying.
http://www.newsweek.com/russia-stole-us-presidency-claims-russian-politician-live-tv-663441
RUSSIA STOLE U.S. PRESIDENCY, PRO-KREMLIN POLITICIAN CLAIMS ON LIVE TV
Vinca
(50,319 posts)Quemado
(1,262 posts)are the ones that are most afraid." - Norman Reedus quotes from BrainyQuote.com.
calimary
(81,550 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,755 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)If no one was fighting him, he'd still be trying to pick fights.
Texin
(2,600 posts)And the fact that he's loose-hinged. But the bottom line fact is that he doesn't really know exactly what the FBI and the intelligence agencies have actually uncovered, nor does he know who among those already charged - some of whom have plead guilty already - have told the FBI and other investigators have told them about what his involvement was. The only option for a guilty person in those circumstances is to hack away at the credibility of the accusers and the investigators trying to get to the bottom of things. To publicly attack specific information would be to bumble into confessing, as it were, specifics that only a guilty person would know about and perhaps reveal more than the investigators actually have got to. The more he keeps talking, the more he's incriminating himself in my opinion, but it keeps the base on his side because they are willing to suspend all disbelief to keep on fervently supporting him.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Now, I think he's so disengaged that he couldn't make a coherent confession if he wanted to. If it ever comes to his having to testify or be deposed, we'll see again just how vague and incoherent he is.
Too late for him to learn new ways. I guess he'll just bluff and bluster until the day when he can't stand it any longer.
ChazInAz
(2,575 posts)The court martial section of "The Caine Mutiny", when Captain Queeg is on the witness stand. There, he rolls his steel ball bearings and rants about strawberries. It's simultaneously horrifying and sad.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)As Greenwald reminds us, Queeg was once somebody brave who did service.
Trump has always been a man-baby.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)ability to parse but he fully knows they did something wrong... otherwise they all wouldn't be lying so much
Wounded Bear
(58,755 posts)This is how guilty people react to any probing of their actions.
True Blue American
(17,995 posts)Something like a pyramid scheme. He has been simply using his name while others put up the money for years now.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,437 posts)caught off-guard and he'll erupt in rage. It's all a show to rile up his Nazi base that will respond to any calls for a "Second Amendment solution." But the ensuing violence will be short-lived when Nazis start getting killed. They'll quickly get that Trumpy is using them for rifle fodder. Their "movement" isn't based on their own economic and political realities, and they'll find that out after their people start getting buried.
cstanleytech
(26,339 posts)different because he probably did not get rich by playing by the rules of law and the odds are he has done a number of shady if not outright illegal things over the years.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)He knows they have been watching him for years, or his lawyers have discovered he's lied to them and ready to quit, or maybe he is getting pressure from Putin to stop it, or make a payment? Could be anything. His tantrums are normal when he even is lightly slighted. Who knows, maybe he's worried Mellania will discover he hasn't been loyal to her from what they've found on him. One thing he could be finding out, if he's been eavesdropping on them, and they've set him up knowing it. Nothing from him would be a surprise at this point. It could be as little as the weather preventing him from playing golf. Maybe he found out a lot more have flipped on him? Anyone's guess. Maybe all of it. Who knows. One thing is for sure, his biggest enemy is the truth.
dlk
(11,585 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)squirreled away in Russian banks, I suspect.
aggiesal
(8,940 posts)This is called a non-denial denial.
Texin
(2,600 posts)But the FBI and the other intelligence gathering agencies - those who are currently serving, not those who have left them - haven't yet formally charged/accused him of anything. He can't specifically deny anything at this point, so he's trying to undermine their credibility ahead of those accusations. At this point, I believe he thinks he may be charged or he wouldn't be trying to impugn the integrity of the FBI investigators or the Special Counsel. There are some who posit that he keeps believing that he's going to receive a damn letter exonerating him of any wrongdoing, but if he believed that he wouldn't keep on talking and dragging the people who are investigating him. He'd just shut up and let them do their jobs comfortable in the knowledge that they won't find anything. He doesn't believe that or he wouldn't keep acting like he does and walking the WH hallways at 4:00 AM in the morning and twitter-ranting from the toilet so much that it's a wonder he hasn't bled out by the thumbs by now.
True Blue American
(17,995 posts)Did anyone hear Richard Painter say, he knew Trump 25 years ago and no one wanted to do business with Trump,the reason he had to try for Foreign money?
Richard also said this.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ex-bush-ethics-lawyer-trump-calling-for-clinton-to-be-prosecuted-is-an-impeachable-offense/article/2629600
I think Trump has had a house of cards for years,and it is now tumbling down. The reason he is trying to make money off the Presidency. He is a shyster,and it shows.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)denbot
(9,901 posts)I imagine Trump's past financial dealings has the dumpy don sewn up. To Mueller, Trump's history of tax maneuvering, money laundering, and Mob ties must be a target rich environment before a single Russian gets factored in to the equation.
Enoki33
(1,588 posts)with various money laundering crimes that has Putins methods stamped on them. Clearly murder was part of those coverups, and one has to ask if trump had prior knowledge, or was involved in any money laundering channels threatened with public exposure that had to be plugged? This is a stretch, but something way beyond collusion has him pacing the halls to dig deeper the RICO hole he assuredly foresees in his future. The jerk is so corrupted nothing is beyond checking.
dchill
(38,577 posts)Al Franken wanted an investigation and didn't get one
True Blue American
(17,995 posts)I read this morning she is one of the top 5 to run for President! Yuck!
Not for me!
duforsure
(11,885 posts)He's setting the stage like he did with the KGB, and remaking it wiyh only those he wants , so he has loyalists for his rule of law, so now he has trump doing the same thing by attacking and claiming its corrupted, while he's corrupting it. Suspect they'll find out he's infiltrated the FBI already too, and trump will be announcing their destruction, to be replaced with his loyalist for him and putin. That's why he's attacking them too, to undermine his investigation, and to remake it for himself only, and using surrogates to promote it now.
IronLionZion
(45,580 posts)I hope he blurts out some damning evidence or something, or rats out his co-conspirators. He'll throw Jared under the bus and then probably Don Jr.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)It sounds like he is really moving forward and those charges can't be pardoned, can they?
He probably doesn't know which one will get to him first.
True Blue American
(17,995 posts)Big one won. Trump University. They are saying Scheiderman is just waiting to go after Trump.
CNN is showing Obama with Harry. Talking common sense. That should set the orange hair flame. Very admiring. Except tweet on CNN fake news.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)or if he had 100 filed against Trump by contractors, women, etc. that he was working on. Were those old ones?
It sounds to me like Schneiderman has a mission. Good for him. I think we all have the same mission, just need help in carrying it out.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)They are screeching and howling and running around in an uncontrolled manner...