Why do rightwingers hate the U.N.?

[SHRED]

What is up with that?

[unblock]

1. Damn furriners telling us what to do and not to do!

I think that pretty much sums it up

[Beartracks]

2. That's it exactly. Rightwing superiority complex makes 'em...

... think that cooperation is for losers.

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[lastlib]

31. becuz 'Murika........

...number#1.

We're the only ones that count. Dark people are for serving us good white Christians, and yellow ones are eevul communists.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. U.S.A.! U.S.A! Those other, inferior countries who are either socialist

or full of people who aren't white or Christian, are not the boss of us. That's why.

[democratisphere]

4. American exceptionalism which is actually American delusionalism.

[dflprincess]

5. They've been whining about the U.N. since the charter was signed in June 1945

no idea why.

[unblock]

6. They think its the world telling us what to do. In truth its almost the opposite

[Xolodno]

7. Because;

1. We could beholden the very international laws we impose on others.

2. We are the Superpower of the world and rules don't apply to us...like Nazi Germany.

3. It's the inheritor of the League of Nations, something we were not part of....despite being the creation of President Woodrow Wilson.

4. The idea of "Isolationism" is well and prevalent.

5. Racism.

6. Idiots who think we are "aiding" a good portion of the world and not getting due respect for it....never mind the aid comes with a lot "conditions" and many cases, if we don't "aid"...someone else will..to our detriment.

7. Idiots who think the UN will collapse without the support of the USA...despite the fact we are often late on the bills for the UN and the UN has convened in Switzerland when domestic laws have conflicted with the UN....and a number of nations would like the UN moved away from New York.

8. I could go on, but lets make this simple, they are a bunch of dumb asses who, if weren't told toilet paper was for their ass...wouldn't use it.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

12. Good summary and another perspective is...

The GOP is against anything that limits the powers of the corporate world.

The GOP is traditionally against any organization that tends to provide organized assistance for the lower classes, or organization of those classes of people (unions, etc.).

In other words, against anything that inhibits, limits or controls the wealthy and powerful sectors of humanity.

[Hoyt]

8. UN threatens America First. Plus too many Black and Brown people for white wingers.

[shanny]

9. National sovereignty BS.

[Initech]

10. The UN is the antithesis of the racists' "America First" agenda.

[Orange Free State]

11. It is just one thing...

...in a long chain of things that, historically, they irrationally hate and fear, and it doesn't particularly have anything to do with the UN. Going back to the 50s it was the Birchers and fluoridation. Later generations (Sons of Birchers?) went off on the peace sign, the principal of my junior high school distributed stuff saying that it was satanic. Outcome based education, death panels (I told a RW woman ranting about death panels in church that she should be nice to me, as I had just got a letter from Obama appointing me to her local death panel). Vaccination was in there for a while and may still be. Jews have been there all along, and you can have fun pointing out that they worship two Jews (Jesus and Ayn Rand). It is just a free floating anxiety that is intentionally stoked to keep all the mindless idiot ducks walking in line, I guess.

Once they are not frightened of something any more, they will be given a new fear focus.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

13. K & R. Good historical points.

Quote: "appointing me to her local death panel." LOL, that's a classic.

The GOP knows how to play people's emotions and religious beliefs like a cheap fiddle.

And, welcome to DU!

[Cosmocat]

18. Yep

Just one of a never ending litany of absurdities meant to keep "the base" disconnected from reality.

[JI7]

14. because there are non white non christian types there

and they don't want unity with those types.

[NewJeffCT]

33. That's a big part of it

they think we're going to give up our sovereignty to them. Now, they probably think the UN will force us to implement Sharia Law or something, too.

[PatrickforO]

15. Cuz they don't want no 'one world gummint!'

A new world order goes against some obscure 'christian' dogma, apparently. Yet, we have a whole 'christian' movement that is actively seeking to hasten the apocalypse with the mistaken idea this will help Jesus come faster and begin his thousand year reign.

At least that's my understanding.

And hey, these folks voted for Roy Moore!

[Skittles]

16. XENOPHOBES

[KelleyKramer]

17. Because you have to follow rules

Right wingers do not want any rules, they want everything their way, every time, always

They are assholes

[Sancho]

19. Because they want to make money with war!

The MIC can't profit from wars with the damn UN going around promoting peace.

[Orsino]

22. Participation in the UN is sort of the opposite of American exceptionalism.

I don't know if the Right's leader's actually hate the UN, but they sure love bashing it.

[TheBlackAdder]

23. They view the USA as an absolute hegemony, and any form of capitulation is a sign of weakness.

[mopinko]

24. a reflection of the deepest psychological balance in humans-

on your own, or with the tribe.
those who have a loving, nurturing and successful tribe will be willing to give up a little autonomy in exchange for the protection and care of the tribe. they will produce altruism in the tribe.

those who have a tyrannical, cruel and/or stressed tribe will find the gamble of altruism to be fraught w fear. they will put themselves first, and drive a hard bargain on anything the tribe demands of them.

really, this is something we humans would be wise to understand a little better.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moral_Animal

[lame54]

25. They think ALL money belongs to them...

Any $$$ not current in their accounts is being mis-spent and needs to be redirected immediately

[no_hypocrisy]

26. They can't control it.

They think it controls them.

[bobbieinok]

27. Been going on very lomg time. Because of Eleanor Roosevelt's connection with founding??

RW really hated her. And FDR.

[avebury]

28. They hate the UN because of all the countries

that refuse to kowtow to the Repubican controlled US.

[quartz007]

29. because UN offers no taxcuts!

[Tanuki]

30. They have been strongly influenced by the John Birch Society

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thinkprogress.org/how-one-conspiracy-theory-group-pushes-anti-u-n-legislation-around-the-country-dab4b5194dd8/amp/

"A fringe conspiracy theory group that believes the United Nations is out to steal the freedoms of the American people has been working with state legislatures around the country to pass a series of laws that reflect their paranoid, isolationist worldview.

The John Birch Society, a nativist organization founded in the 1950s, is famous for opposing the Civil Rights movement and espousing other far-right views, including that President Eisenhower was a communist infiltrator and Nelson Mandela is “a communist terrorist thug.” The John Birch Society’s views are so far right, in fact, that even conservative icon William F. Buckley denounced the group as “idiotic” and “paranoid.”

Their longtime foe, the United Nations, in 1992 passed a series of non-binding recommendations related to developing resources in a way that can be sustained across generations. The phrase that these documents created — sustainable development — has become a code-word for right-wing black helicopter conspiracies."....
(more at link. Also please recall that the Koch Brothers' dad was one of the founders)

[blaze]

35. Also please recall that the Koch Brothers' dad was one of the founders

I didn't know this little tidbit.

Thank you.

[Tanuki]

36. More on the subject:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thinkprogress.org/john-birch-society-celebrates-koch-family-for-their-role-in-founding-the-hate-group-b8fd2ac8b379/amp/

"Billionaire brothers David and Charles Koch have been dominant financiers for conservative front groups and nonprofits for nearly three decades. Their money has flowed to organizations dedicated to lobbying for corporate and upper income tax cuts, as well as to groups responsible for mobilizing Tea Party rallies against President Obama. But the Koch family’s association with fringe right-wing groups began a generation earlier with Fred Koch, the patriarch of the clan.

Fred not only founded the company now known as Koch Industries, he also was a founding member of the John Birch Society. As a founding member of the John Birch Society. As a founding board member, Fred helped engineer a hysterical wave of attacks on labor, intellectuals, public education, liberal clergy members, and other pillars of society he viewed as a threat. Birchers decried everyone from former President Eisenhower to water utility administrators as pawns in a global communist conspiracy. In the last two years, as the Koch name has become synonymous with right-wing plutocracy in the United States, the Koch family has played down its relation to the Birchers.

However, the New American, the official mouthpiece of the John Birch Society, published a piece this morning celebrating Fred and the Koch family’s pivotal role in developing the group...." (more)

[stevenleser]

32. They don't believe in International Law if it constrains US actions in any way.

In the rightwing mindset, rule #1 is that the US is exceptional and can never do wrong. If the US is found to be doing something wrong, like breaking international law, see rule #1.

The UN and the international community obviously don't see it that way, and it is a philosophy and behavior that is destructive to the US in terms of our relationship with all countries including our closest allies, but the rightwing in the US isn't particularly prone to being introspective.

[NCDem777]

34. Some bullshit about the rapture

[Runningdawg]

37. I have heard it said

Obama is the antichrist and he will come to power as soon as he is the head of the UN. That the UN itself, is the "snake that will rise from the pit to devour all nations". Funny, the thing I remember from church is that the antichrist will be a man loved by everyone who will unite the world and they never seem to address that fact. They always try and hang the label on the person they hate the most.

[TexasBushwhacker]

38. If the antichrist precedes Armageddon and the rapture

Why aren't they saying "Bring on the antichrist!"? They're so inconsistent.

[mitch96]

39. tRump and Haley are doing EXACTLY what PUtin wants

Divide and conquer...
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[VOX]

40. "There is no United Nations" since the U.S. is "the only real power left in the world"-John Bolton

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/5-dumbest-right-wing-conspiracy-theories-about-united-nations
Alternet, 12/04/2012
5 Dumbest Right-Wing Conspiracy Theories About the United Nations
Conservative fear-mongers claim a UN treaty ensuring rights for disabled people "undermines American sovereignty."
<snip>
John Bolton, a right-wing foreign policy voice in the GOP, deserves his own category for freaking out about the UN. In 1994, he told an audience that “there is no United Nations. There is an international community that occasionally can be led by the only real power left in the world, and that’s the United States.”

These comments sparked controversy when George W. Bush nominated Bolton to serve as US ambassador to the United Nations. But Bolton did not stop just questioning why the UN existed. He also suggested that it wouldn’t matter if the UN building lost physical stories. “The Secretariat building in New York has 38 stories. If it lost 10 stories, it wouldn't make a bit of difference,” Bolton said. Since leaving his post as ambassador, Bolton has continued to raise doubts about the UN.

[beachbum bob]

41. basically they believe US reports to no one....nor should we.

We don't "ask", we demand....

its a deluded tough guy attitude based on nonsense

[Danascot]

42. This wikipedia article does a pretty good job of explaining what's up

The New World Order or NWO is claimed to be an emerging clandestine totalitarian world government by various conspiracy theories.[3][4][5][6][7]

The common theme in conspiracy theories about a New World Order is that a secretive power elite with a globalist agenda is conspiring to eventually rule the world through an authoritarian world government—which will replace sovereign nation-states—and an all-encompassing propaganda whose ideology hails the establishment of the New World Order as the culmination of history's progress. Many influential historical and contemporary figures have therefore been purported to be part of a cabal that operates through many front organizations to orchestrate significant political and financial events, ranging from causing systemic crises to pushing through controversial policies, at both national and international levels, as steps in an ongoing plot to achieve world domination.[3][4][5][6][7]

Before the early 1990s, New World Order conspiracism was limited to two American countercultures, primarily the militantly anti-government right and secondarily that part of fundamentalist Christianity concerned with the end-time emergence of the Antichrist.[8] Skeptics such as Michael Barkun and Chip Berlet observed that right-wing populist conspiracy theories about a New World Order had not only been embraced by many seekers of stigmatized knowledge but had seeped into popular culture, thereby inaugurating a period during the late 20th and early 21st centuries in the United States where people are actively preparing for apocalyptic millenarian scenarios.[4][6] Those political scientists are concerned that mass hysteria over New World Order conspiracy theories could eventually have devastating effects on American political life, ranging from escalating lone-wolf terrorism to the rise to power of authoritarian ultranationalist demagogues.[4][6][9]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)