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investigating tRump pertaining to the Emolument clause? This be a good place to start with him? or am i dreaming?
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,813 posts)about the emoluments clause because those who filed, according to the judge, have no standing to do so.
As despicable as it is that Trump is profiting this way, this is too obscure an issue to matter to very many people.
And before we start thinking about what we might do if (and that's a bigger if than most realize) we win back both houses next year, let's work on getting candidates elected. Let's also work on getting Dems elected at all levels, especially to state legislatures.
First things first.
bluestarone
(16,859 posts)it's high time tRump was questioned under oath about something, and this is good starting point. my opinion
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)About a potential emoluments clause violation? This seems like a huge reach to me.
bluestarone
(16,859 posts)never been done before
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)And not whims. The emoluments clause issue isn't likely to go anywhere, and as much as I dislike Trump don't think frivolous lawsuits are the answer to his despotism.
BumRushDaShow
(128,441 posts)and not the tax group (which is who has no standing).
Take back and Congress and one can get started doing what the judge suggested....
unblock
(52,116 posts)I would think, at a minimum, the federal government has standing.
There are probably some criminal statutes hes violated as well. Im not aware of any specifically mentioning emoluments, but surely profiting off of public office is covered.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,813 posts)to accomplish if we do take both houses of Congresses. Undoing this god-awful tax bill should be the first. And we'd need a veto-proof majority, which probably isn't going to happen. But maybe we can get some things passed that will alleviate some of the damage.
Of course, he's still going to have terrible people running things in every federal agency, so there's going to be a real limit on what can be done.
bluestarone
(16,859 posts)i feel we go right to the top (this will cause much pain for him) again my opinion! i have faith we can do all now that we know what there about just saying
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)And I think we need to focus on electing Dems in 2018 and 2020.
bluestarone
(16,859 posts)We can do lots if we are smart
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)Hamlette
(15,408 posts)I think.
In my state, getting called before the state legislative Rules Committee was among the worst things that could happen. Only happened twice in my 30 years experience. And we rewrote the rule (in state government they are called rules, the federal government calls them regulations, tomato vs tomato.)
Grill those bastards on TV before a democratic committee.
Remember, LBJ brought down McCarthy back in the day by putting him on TV. And look what has happened to a couple of the judicial appointments when they were on TV.
unblock
(52,116 posts)Better laws and regulations preventing this kind of abuse of office for future presidents.
I think Donnie will skate on the embezzlement even if somehow he is impeached, hell be allowed to keep all his ill-gotten gains.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)on this, who possibly could?
no_hypocrisy
(46,020 posts)If we don't get him one way, we'll get him another way.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)to keep most pugs in legal trouble for the rest of their natural born lives
They only need one house to do it
Can you say Benghazi in reverse?
How many investors did they run on her?
bluestarone
(16,859 posts)your thinking
Bradshaw3
(7,485 posts)The number I heard today was I think was hundreds that he could fill. That would change this country more drastically than any law. Just do exactly what the rethugs would do and refuse to seat any more judges, period, nominated by this POtuS. If they want to stop gerrymandering, redo the tax bill, impeach him, etc. then ok we can get back to governing how they used to. until then, no more new judges, no matter what it does to the court system.
bluestarone
(16,859 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Somehow be flipped
The damage done by turtleboy keeping dems from filling those bench seats then filling them with federalist cretins is going to be incalculable; the most far reaching damage they can inflict....worse than the tax cut/enabling act, which can be overridden eventually....sooner the better obviously
Bradshaw3
(7,485 posts)McConnell certainly would. They have got to start fighting back in these ways or we are eventually going to lose this country. This is life and death for democracy. You can't play by the old rules any more.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)How can they NOT stand up like the people we ELECTED, and DO their JOBS!?!
This is no time for jellyfish
So far theyre reacting pretty tepidly to the unbelievably vituperous attacks by these traitors who call themselves republican legislators.
Can you imagine if dems were trying to defend the fucking RUSSIANS just a few years ago?
Thats the whole plank of the pugs, from the time of the partititioning of Germany and Korea, for gods sake
McCarthy anyone? HUAC, anyone? Reagans Russian Bear commercials, anyone?
MSM is enabling them to a faretheewell, as usual
These maniacs going after Mueller are BARKING MAD
Have you heard the words theyre using, whipping up the imbeciles whose pittance theyre in the process of eliminating?
Beyond insane......
Its time for.....
George Papoon!
https://goo.gl/images/UJ2DsB
http://www.firesigntheatre.com/papoon/
bluestarone
(16,859 posts)that's the writing on the wall for sure
Bradshaw3
(7,485 posts)They were great and underappreciated today.
"It's nice out."
"Yes, think I'll leave it out."
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Tell it like it was!
Give me that, or Im going over there!
Antelope freeway, one half mile....antelope freeway....one quarter mile....antelope freeway...one eighth mile.....antelope freeway......one sixteenth mile.....antelope freeway.....one thirty second mile......
It never ends. Did you see the papoon for president link?
Bradshaw3
(7,485 posts)"If you lived here you'd be home by now."
"Roll another bummer and leave it on the side table."
"You haven't seen the last of me."
"No but the first of you turns my stomach."
Can't believe I remember these lines, especially considering my state when I listened to them.
dflprincess
(28,072 posts)The nominee is from Minnesota and if both senators from a nominee's state don't turn in their "blue slips" the nomination can't go forward. Good ol' Amy Klobuchar turned hers in but Al refused to and McConnell was spitting tacks over it.
So, Al takes down Sessions and then blocks a nominee and all of a sudden Tweeden remembers she has this photo...
No, the remaining Dems won't have the cajones.
onenote
(42,581 posts)They did so before Al resigned.
dflprincess
(28,072 posts)the day before the Tweeden photo surfaced.
onenote
(42,581 posts)How did Al being accused make it any more likely that they would do away with it? They had been discussing it for several months.
dflprincess
(28,072 posts)I think it has more to do with Al being a thorn in their sides between the Sessions questioning (among others) and very vocally blue slipping the guy. I find the timing of Tweeden photo and the other accusations interesting and I don't think it was a coincidence.