(UK Weapons inspector Dr. David) Kelly’s Book of Secrets

[sabra]

Source: UK Daily Express

WEAPONS inspector David Kelly was writing a book exposing highly damaging government secrets before his ­mysterious death.

He was intending to reveal that he warned Prime Minister Tony Blair there were no weapons of mass destruction anywhere in Iraq weeks before the ­British and American invasion.

He had several discussions with a publisher in Oxford and was seeking advice on how far he could go without breaking the law on secrets.

Following his death, his computers were seized and it is still not known if any rough draft was discovered by investigators and, if so, what happened to the material.

..

British author Gordon Thomas said last night: ‘‘I knew David Kelly very well and he called me because he was working on a book.

“He told me he had warned Tony Blair there were no weapons of mass destruction. I advised him that as he had signed the Official Secrets Act life could get ­difficult for him.

“I gained the impression that he was prepared to take the flak as he wanted his story to come out.”

Read more: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/111971/Kelly-s-book-of-secrets

[juno jones]

1. K&R! n/t

[Nothing Without Hope]

2. I've always believed he was murdered. May the truth come out. n/t

[PerceptionManagement]

57. Very fortuitous for Blair & ChimpCo, no?

[Nothing Without Hope]

67. Oh yes, most timely for them. And then there was the Judith Miller connection...

One of the more interesting theories I've read is that WMDs were going to be planted in Iraq to support the war, and Judith Miller was going to "report" on their "discovery." Actually, the various actors were in place, and some of Kelley's last emails were to her. This creepy - but not unbelievable, at least to me - scenario goes that Kelley was on to the planted WMD plot, he told her, she passed the word to her contacts in the Administration, and Kelley was silenced to prevent his talking. Here are some Miller/Kelley connection-related DU threads from back then:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5049555
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5076864
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1853828
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5165536&mesg_id=5166669
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5170660
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=60048&mesg_id=61108
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x65834
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x109553

[bluesmail]

3. Who has a second/third/fourth copy of the manuscript? I'm interested

if he started a book, how far did he get, and who else (aside from the suiciders) have it.

[abq e streeter]

4. so tired of tin foil hat conspiracy theorists

why , just because of this case and the suspicious deaths (or attempts on the lives: Daschle and Leahy ) of Raymond Lemme, Fred Hampton, Karen Silkwood, Ron Brown, JFK (and several dozen others who were connected with his death), Mel Carnahan, Paul Wellstone, Bruce Ivins, the DC Madam, and Mike Connell, (just for the ones I can think of off the top of my head...) there's no reason to think these were anything but your garden variety millions to one odds of all of em happening, string of coincidences. ( as always, in case I need this::sarcasm: )

[JDPriestly]

5. Strange how Democrats die in unusual circumstances and Conservatives

die in bed. The only exception I can think of is the occasional conservative who becomes inconvenient to conservatives in general.

[abq e streeter]

6. i.e. Mike Connell--but again, just yet another amazingly convenient (for Rove) coincidence

and the fact that it was ignored by the MSM.... I'm sure they were gonna cover it, but it just simply slipped their minds--nothing the least bit sinister about that...

[paparush]

46. Angry Lefties carry signs, sing songs, and write letters.

Angry Righties shoot people in the head.

[mod mom]

9. Yeah the fact Kelley's last email was from Judith Miller was just a coincidence:

Kelly warned of 'dark actors playing games'



Published Date: 20 July 2003
By JEREMY WATSON

THE e-mail to a friendly American reporter appeared routine but there was one telling phrase.
The impassioned writer spoke of "many dark actors playing games". Moments later Dr David Kelly left his home on his final walk into his beloved Oxfordshire countryside. The respected scientist and father of three had decided to leave his fellow actors behind and exit the stage he had so reluctantly been forced to mount.

The e-mail was sent on Thursday morning to Judy Miller, a New York Times writer who had used Kelly as a source for a book on biological terrorism. It was one of his last communications before leaving his 18th-century cottage in the village of Southmoor, his home for 20 years, and setting off to die.

Miller, a long-term friend of the family, holds the belief, based on earlier conversations with Kelly, that his reference to "dark actors" seemed to refer to people within the Ministry of Defence and Britain’s intelligence agencies with whom he had often sparred over interpretations of intelligence reports.

It also emerged that Kelly believed he had been put "through the wringer" by MoD officials, and that he felt "betrayed" when his name was released to the press.

-snip

http://news.scotsman.com/huttoninquiry/Kelly-warned-of-dark-actors.2445253.jp

[RandomThoughts]

16. There are some false doctrines that fit

'dark actors playing games' and they lead to massive despair or for some even insanity. Really bad false doctrines sorta match that phrase.

One of the reasons Suicide is always bad and wrong, people can be confused. Then when they break out of the false doctrine they see things much clearer, they just have to make it through it. And if he was about to shine a light on alot of evil, he could have been oppressed by things.

Might sound crazy, but it happens alot.

[Peace Patriot]

21. There was no evidence whatever that he was depressed or suicidal.

His other emails that day reveal that he was looking forward to his daughter's wedding in the fall, and to returning to Iraq to visit colleagues--Iraqi scientists whom he met as a UN weapons inspector and considered friends. He was forward-looking and positive, and felt that he had weathered the storm (of the Blair government's hunting him down, interrogations at a "safe house" and before parliament, and the publicity). His comment about "the many dark actors" was unique to Judith Miller. All other emails were upbeat. And there is plenty of evidence that he was murdered--most of it suppressed by the Hutton report. I am 99% convinced that he was murdered, not for his comments on the "sexed up" prewar intel, but for something else--something worse--that he knew.

[No Elephants]

48. Please don't try to confuse anyone with your silly reality-based information.

:sarcasm:

[leveymg]

55. It's interesting, perhaps significant, that he spoke to Miller about "dark actors" and Thomas

warned about the problems he would have if he published his book.

Both Miller and Thomas have friends in strange places, and lots of friends in common.

And, what is this scandal potentially bigger than the Downing Street Memos which the article alludes to?

Dr Kelly was also intending to lift the lid on a potentially bigger scandal, his own secret dealings in germ warfare with the apartheid regime in South Africa.

US television investigators have spent four years preparing a 90-minute documentary, Anthrax War, suggesting there is a global black market in anthrax and exposing the mystery “suicides” of five government germ warfare scientists from around the world.

Director Bob Coen said: ‘‘The deeper you look into the murky world of governments and germ warfare, the more worrying it becomes.

“We have proved there is a black ­market in anthrax. David Kelly was of particular interest to us because he was a world expert on anthrax and he was involved in some degree with assisting the secret germ warfare programme in apartheid South Africa.”

BTW: Recall that another anthrax figure was also tied-in with the South African germ warfare program - Steven Hatfill

[Judi Lynn]

12. People usually think of Mel Carnahan as the murdered Democrat from Missouri, but there's another:

Jerry Litton, and the circumstances could make almost anyone suspicious:

http://upload.wikimedia.org.nyud.net:8090/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b4/Chillicothe-litton.jpg/388px-Chillicothe-litton.jpg

Jerry Lon Litton (May 12, 1937 – August 3, 1976) was a Democratic U.S. Representative from Missouri who died with his wife and two children while en route via a small plane to the victory party after winning Missouri's state Democratic primary for U.S. Senate.

Litton was elected to the U.S. House as a Democrat in 1972. He was considered a rising star in the Democratic Party and his television show "Dialogue with Litton" was broadcast statewide. Among the guests were Jimmy Carter, Secretary of Agriculture Earl Butz, Vice President Gerald Ford, Congressman Thomas P. "Tip" O'Neill, and House Speaker Carl Albert.<2>

Green bumper stickers (like those used in his prior Congressional campaigns) circulated in the state saying "Litton for President."<3> Jimmy Carter was to say that he thought Litton would be President one day.<4>

In 1976, after only two terms in the House of Representatives, Litton entered into a three-way Democratic Party primary race for the U.S. Senate seat of retiring Senator Stuart Symington. The other contestants were Symington's son James W. Symington and former Missouri Governor Warren Hearnes. Litton won the primary but died with his entire family (wife, Sharon, and their two children, Linda and Scott) along with pilot Paul Rupp Jr. and the pilot's son, Paul Rupp III, en route to a victory party in Kansas City, Missouri; their plane crashed on take-off from the Chillicothe airport shortly after 9 p.m. on election night. The investigation into the crash determined the twin-engine plane broke a chankshaft while under the strain of take off. Although James Symington was offered the opportunity to run in the general election (following Symington's second-place finish in the primary), Hearnes was appointed to run as the Democractic nominee, but lost to Missouri's Attorney General John Danforth, who served several terms as a U.S. Senator for Missouri.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Litton

As we know, Republican John Danforth acquired national recognition quickly, just as did the man who ran against the other killed-while-campaigning Mel Carnahan, good old John Ashcroft.

[fascisthunter]

17. really... oh well

[defendandprotect]

32. Another of Dennis Kucinich's brothers died suddenly this weekend . . .

nah . . . they wouldn't be doing anything like that, would they???

Kay Griggs, Sy Hersh are nuts --

:sarcasm:

[No Elephants]

49. Not sure why anyone would kill his brothers, rather than him. Maybe sending messages?

[BonnieJW]

52. According to the email,

his brother died of a heart attack.

[xchrom]

7. recommend

[winyanstaz]

8. Murder most horrid....

Seems like there is indeed a conspiracy after all. Once again there is murder most horrid and once again it is the death of someone that could tell on the last administration.
Speaking of murder, has anyone heard anything at all in the main stream media of the looooooooooooooooong list of dead Microbiologists yet? I would think there would have been a few clues by now after so many deaths that would help the fbi find the killer/killers.
(edited for spelling :P )

[defendandprotect]

33. I think David Kelly understood the dangers and hope that he was able

to protect some of his material/book.

[paparush]

47. I had not heard of the microbiologists until I just Googled-

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/deadbiologists.html

<snip>
The body count of infections disease experts continued to climb. Connections to weapons research began to surface.

As many as 14 world-class microbiologists died between 9/11/1 and 3/2/2, and on 6/24/2 yet another microbiologist was added to the list.

Still the US Government acted as if nothing was amiss, as silent on the question of dead microbiologists as they are on the question of the Israeli spies and their connection to 9-11.

In fact, the official silence on the question of how so many top experts in infectious diseases could die in such a short time span is deafening.

Now, statistically, it's possible, even likely, that one or two of these microbiologists legitimately were killed in random accidents. But for so many to die in such a short while exceeds all reasonable bounds of statistics. Prudence would demand an investigation, not the "ho hum" attitude of the government which even today continues to issue dire warnings to the general population of how much we are all in danger from "bioterrorism".

So, let's take a moment and step away from the perpetual fear-mongering of the media (and Rumsfeld) as they assure us another attack IS coming (with a certainty which suggests inside information on the subject) and assume for a moment that some party has indeed decided to "liquidate" weapons research infectious disease experts.

There is really only one reason to kill off a bunch of scientists. To keep them from doing something they are able to do.

What were these scientists able to do? Maybe blow the whistle if an artificially created disease was about to be used in a manner those who created it did not approve of.

Regardless of the exact reason, there does seem to be a clear pattern of targeted microbiologists, and paired with it, an obvious government disinterest in the matter.

I leave it to you to figure out why.


</snip>

[muriel_volestrangler]

10. There is the article he wrote, but wasn't published, before the Iraq invasion

Revealed: How Kelly article set out case for war in Iraq

· Unpublished analysis supports Government
· Military action only way to disarm country
· 'Modest threat' but WMD on Saddam's agenda

* Kamal Ahmed, political editor
* The Observer, Sunday 31 August 2003 18.17 BST
* Article history

A remarkable article by Dr David Kelly, published for the first time today, reveals the government scientist's true views ahead of the war on Iraq and his expert assessment of the threat posed by Saddam Hussein.

In a development which could have a major influence on the Hutton inquiry, Kelly said that, although the threat was 'modest', he believed military action was the only way to 'conclusively disarm' the country.

He also argued that there was evidence Saddam still had chemical and biological weapons and regime change, the policy of the United States, was the only way to stop the Iraqi dictator.

The article was written for a major report on Iraq being compiled a few weeks before the war. Kelly had agreed to write it anonymously, but the piece was never published.

It will be sent to the Hutton inquiry this weekend and provides one of the few direct pieces of evidence of Kelly's views since the row between the Government and the BBC broke out at the end of May.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2003/aug/31/davidkelly.iraq1

'Only regime change will avert the threat'

Here we reprint Dr David Kelly's article, written days before the Iraq war, in which he assessed the threat from Saddam

* David Kelly
* The Observer, Sunday 31 August 2003
* Article history

In the past week, Iraq has begun destroying its stock of al-Samoud II missiles, missiles that have a range greater than the UN-mandated limit of 150 kilometres. This is presented to the international community as evidence of President Saddam Hussein's compliance with United Nations weapons inspectors.

But Iraq always gave up materials once it was in its interest to do so. Iraq has spent the past 30 years building up an arsenal of weapons of mass destruction (WMD). Although the current threat presented by Iraq militarily is modest, both in terms of conventional and unconventional weapons, it has never given up its intent to develop and stockpile such weapons for both military and terrorist use.

Today Iraq shows superficial co-operation with the inspectorates. Weapons such as 122mm rockets specific for chemical and biological use have been discovered and the destruction of proscribed missiles and associated engines, components and gyroscopes has begun.

Iraq has established two commissions to search for documents and weapons under the direction of Rashid Amer, a former head of Iraq's concealment activities, and a commission has started to recover weapons from Iraq's unilateral destruction sites. (These sites, dating back to 1991, were destroyed by Iraq, illegally, without UN supervision and as part of Iraq's concealment of programmes.) Amer al-Saadi - formerly responsible for conserving Iraq's WMD, now its principal spokesman on its weapons - continues to mislead the international community.
...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2003/aug/31/huttonreport.iraq

What Kelly really thought about the war in Iraq

Julie Flint, a Middle East expert and former Observer reporter, describes the UN weapons inspector she knew and respected and how he agreed to write down his thoughts on Saddam's weapons and menace

...
Less than a month before Bush-Blair invaded Iraq in a quasi-colonial enterprise unlike anything since the break-up of the Ottoman Empire, I was editing a report on the war that combined Iraqi voices with expert analysis. British and US soldiers were about to become the neighbours of millions of Arabs who disbelieved their stated reason for threatening war - Saddam's WMD.

Yet sensible debate over the real threat Saddam posed and the rightness - or wrongness - of war was lost in a frenzy of emotional grandstanding and governmental manipulation, in every country concerned. I asked David to write for me. He agreed, asking that he be identified only as a former weapons inspector. The problem of anonymity in such a piece was one of the reasons I eventually decided against publishing the article, which appears on the right in a gently edited version that David approved in the first days of March.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2003/aug/31/davidkelly.iraq2

Which doesn't seem to match with what the Daily Express is claiming.

[glitch]

11. They could both be true -- he could've found out he'd been duped

having put his reputation on the line -- as events panned out he may've looked into it more, changed his mind and wanted to come clean.

Opinions change as facts become known.

[Peace Patriot]

22. Yes, David Kelly supported the war. That is why his whistleblowing to the BBC

about the "sexed up" pre-war intel is so remarkable. He began whistleblowing in May 2003, after the invasion in March. Why? That is the question. He was an insider, a government/military weapons expert, a privileged man, a keeper of government secrets. What turned him around into a whistleblower--at the risk of his career, and ultimately his life? Could have been conscience, yes. Could have been something like the torture of his friends in Iraq, or the carpet bombing of Baghdad--that kind of revulsion. But the timing of it--it seemed to happen rather suddenly, in May 2003--points to an immediate cause--something he learned, something he stumbled upon, or something he put together the pieces of. Maybe it was his anthrax involvement. Maybe my theory, a plan to plant the WMDs in Iraq (which would have really offended him). He did a 180 on the war. Why?

[muriel_volestrangler]

24. He went back to Iraq in early June 2003

and was probably talking to American inspectors he had worked with before then, who would have been in Iraq by May. Perhaps they were already saying, off the record, "there's absolutely nothing here - Saddam hadn't managed to hide anything" by that stage.

I don't think it was a '180', so much as a realisation that so many of the 'sources' that had been claimed by western intelligence were crap. He'd been more cautious and measured than some analysts before the war - I think you can see that in the Observer piece - but he may not have realised just how much the 'facts' had been 'fixed around the policy' - he had thought the government was interested in a truthful appraisal, not an excuse for war. He had been used to being an inspector, where he found out facts for himself, or had colleagues who did the same; he didn't realise intelligence agencies and governments fed so much bullshit even to their own analysts like him.

[cascadiance]

35. I asked Scott Ritter who was a guest on a local KLSD talk show a few years back...

... on whether David Kelly might have been "silenced" because of knowing about plans to "plant" WMD's in Iraq to help justify the war, which folks here still suspect might have been involved in his "suicide".

Scott Ritter's response seemed to indicate that he'd not really talked to Kelly, which if someone like Kelly was talking to weapons inspectors, one would think he would have tried to contact Ritter then. And secondly Ritter seemed dismissive of the idea that anyone could "plant" WMD evidence there and for weapons inspectors to not figure out that it had been planted.

I think it would be interesting to talk to Ritter now with this news to see what his opinion might be of how this all might fit together.

Though there are many scenarios that might not justify someone else killing him, as someone noted here, exposing the complicity of an "anthrax network" might be one. I also wonder if he might have been exposing the plot that Sibel Edmonds warned us of. Perhaps he might have seen some of the evidence of WMD "leaks" through Israel and/or Turkey to Pakistan from the American State Department that the London Times wrote about a few years ago. If he helped with that exposure, that would CERTAINLY be motivation to kill him. And Valerie Plame was looking into weapons trading going through Turkey too at the time Brewster Jennings was "shut down" by exposing of her identity too. Just like exposure of weapons trading secrets might have been reason to kill him, perhaps it was also motivation for Scooter Libby to take the fall for exposing Valerie Plame instead of others taking the fall for perhaps the real reasons for shutting down Brewster Jennings.

I think there were a lot of high stakes issues that would have motivated Kelly's murder. And knowledge of an "anthrax network" might be just one of a number of them. If it can be established what he was trying to expose, we should have a newer investigation as to what more he might have been looking at. And we need to second guess a lot of what we'll be told then too. There are a lot of "distractions" that I think are being offered as distractions to clues of the real truth that are going on here. Whether we can get to the real truth or not is another question, but so much of how various things stink (like the erroneous assessment of his "suicide") I think make investigation of this that much more important.

It would be good to get others with knowledge of what was going on that might know more facts close to this to testify:
Sibel Edmonds - now more vocal again, perhaps we'll get some comments from her on her blog in the coming days...
Judith Miller
Scott Ritter
Hans Blix
Valerie Plame
David Kay - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/mar/03/usa.iraq1
Andrew Gilligan - http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2003/aug/24/uk.davidkelly1, http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2003/aug/24/uk.davidkelly

A bunch of people should be talked to in the context of the stuff linked from this page.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/hutton/0,,1027691,00.html

and perhaps later if some linkage can be established:
Scooter Libby
Marc Grossman
Richard Perle

[defendandprotect]

39. Re Planting WMD . . . there were reports that they tried - the first time . . .

going in with 75 men or more with one surviving!

Supposedly they did try again, but also failed.

Of course, there is no way of knowing . . .

but the arrogance of W in actually making fun in public of the fact that they didn't find WMD

speaks to a confidence level in regard to their destructiveness and corruption which can only

be embedded in feeling omnipotent. "See what we got away with!" ... "They can't touch us!"

I also hope that I misread something in another of the links - I think to the film -- which

suggested that Kelley had something to do with an Apartheid program intended to use Anthrax in

a secret war to kill particular blacks?

I'm going to try to catch up with that again and re-read it.

[derby378]

13. Would it do any good to exhume the corpse?

This was a man who could have prevented the invasion of Iraq. If he was murdered, there's probably evidence of it in his coffin.

[bertman]

19. Not necessarily, derby378. The international intelligence agencies have devised many ways

to assassinate individuals that do not leave clues that are detectable except by the most advanced forsensic techniques--and sometimes not even by them.

You may rest assured that our government alone has spent hundreds of millions of dollars of its "black budget" on such methods.

Plus, if you exhume the corpse, you have to have it examined by individuals who are totally independent of government interference. Slim chance of that happening.

[defendandprotect]

38. So, in the end, as we judge these things we have only our own common sense . . .

[bertman]

60. and hundreds, if not thousands, of other "accidents, suicides, untimely events" to point to.

[defendandprotect]

66. Just looking at last 50 years of right-wing political violence . . .!!!!

[blm]

68. journalists, too...those doing their job were found dead, some blacklisted from mainstream media.

.

[blm]

14. Time for the coincidence theorists to tell us this is just another......coincidence.

.

[defendandprotect]

40. After Sy Hersh -- and Kay Griggs -- I think that's getting harder to do . . .

[blm]

54. actually, a DU regular tried to convince me a few days ago that GHWBush was a benign figure

who had no power even as president and no control of the goings on the last 4 decades.

[defendandprotect]

64. I haven't see anything that bad as yet, but I just responded to a DU'er . . .

who thought that Bush just want bright about preventing war !!!!

:eyes:

Are you familiar with the Kay Griggs interviews re our military/leadership/fascism?

http://www.whale.to/b/griggs_h.html

[ck4829]

15. Interesting that the Hutton Inquiry never looked into this

But, then again, what else could you expect from a whitewash?

[goforit]

18. Dr. Kelly was a threat to the "New World Order" CIA agent Judith Miller took him down.

[defendandprotect]

34. And, as FDR said, the New World Order is simply the Old World Order -- tyranny - !!!

[midnight]

69. Back then FDR was aware that they would repackage themselves

to continue there takeover. Kind of like blackwater is now x something.

[Name removed]

20. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[mopinko]

31. wayne madsen is not a credible source. nt

[Hissyspit]

23. Thom Yorke's 'Harrowdown Hill' - "Did I fall or was I pushed?"

"And where’s the blood?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS37ZSYOwTA

THOM YORKE "Harrowdown Hill"

Don’t walk the plank like I did
You will be dispensed with
when you’ve become inconvenient

Up on Harrowdown Hill
The way you used to go to school
That’s where I am
That’s where I'm lying down

Did I fall or was I pushed?
did I fall or was I pushed?
And where’s the blood?
And where’s the blood?

But I'm coming home
I’m coming home
To make it alright,
so dry your eyes

We think the same things at the same time
We just can’t do anything about it

We think the same things at the same time
We just can’t do anything about it

So don’t ask me, ask the ministry
Don’t ask me, ask the ministry

We think the same things at the same time
There are so many of us
So you can’t count

We think the same things at the same time
There are so many of us
So you can’t count...

Can you see me when I am running?
Can you see me when I am running?
Away from there...
Away from there...

I can’t take the pressure
No one cares if you live or die
They just want me gone
They want me gone

And I'm coming home
I'm coming home
To make it all right
so dry your eyes
We think the same things at the same time
We just can’t do anything about it

We think the same things at the same time
There are too many of us so you can’t
There are too many of us so you can’t count...

It was me walking to the back of Harrowdown Hill
It was me walking to the back of Harrowdown Hill

It was a slippery, slippery, slippery slope
It was a slippery, slippery, slippery slope
I felt me slipping in and out of consciousness
I felt me slipping in and out of consciousness

I feel me...

[MiaCulpa]

25. UK weapons inspector who was found dead was writing expose: paper

Source: Raw Story - John Byrne

Kelly’s death — said to have been a suicide — has stirred controversy, as it came on the heels of testimony to the House of Commons about a memo which purported that Britain had “sexed up” a dossier on Iraq’s alleged weapons of mass destruction. A Parliamentary inquiry ruled that the death had been suicide, though it also included testimony from a former British ambassador who quotes Kelly as having said, “I will probably be found dead in the woods” if Iraq were invaded...

Read more: http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/07/06/uk-weapons-inspector-dead-expose/

---

Perhaps if enough light is shined on the lies, someone will finally be held accountable. Ok, so I believe in faeries, too. I do, I do.

-Diane

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

26. Going down...

:tinfoilhat:










Real post: "Needs to be looked at."

[valerief]

27. What would the Mafia do? That's what these leaders do. If Tony Soprano would do it,

whoever controls Tony Blair or George Bush or Barack Obama would do it, too.

[Wizard777]

28. Dick Cheney's assassination squad?

:tinfoilhat:

[No Elephants]

50. The assassination squad pre-dates Cheney's rise to power, methinks.

[Wizard777]

62. You might have a point there. JFK did try to assassinate Castro with poisoned Cigars.

[Dr.Phool]

29. They had a good movie about something like that on HBO Sat. night.

"Burn After Reading".

:rofl:

[Peace Patriot]

30. Here are the key points regarding what Kelly was writing...

British weapons inspector Dr. David Kelly was writing an expose about his work with anthrax and his warnings that Iraq possessed no weapons of mass destruction at the time of his death in July 2003, according to a report published in a British newspaper.

(SNIP)

The new report says Kelly had spoken with an Oxford publisher several times about a book.

“He had several discussions with a publisher in Oxford and was seeking advice on how far he could go without breaking the law on secrets,” the UK Daily Express alleged.

http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/07/06/uk-weapons-inspector-dead-expose/

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I still don't think that Kelly talking to the BBC about the "Dodgy Dossier" (the "sexed up" case for war), nor his planning to write a book on that subject was enough to get him murdered. In fact, I doubt that the British/US pre-war lies about WMDs were enough to push him "off the reservation." I have felt all along that he knew something more--and I thought it might be their plan to plant WMDs in Iraq to be "discovered" by the US troops who were hunting for them (accompanied by Kelly colleague Judith Miller, avid for that "big scoop"). An effort not just to lie to the world but to hoodwink the world with planted WMDs (remember how the Bushwhacks all kept saying that they would be found, even though they all knew it was a lie--what made them so confident?)--this would have crossed Kelly's ethical line as a true-blue UN weapons inspector. We need to remember that Kelly was an insider. He supported the war. He wanted Saddam to be ousted. It would have taken a lot for him to turn him into a whistleblower--not mere government fudgings of the facts or even lies.

But the anthrax angle is something else--a new element of the story that I didn't know about (that he was planning a book to expose anthrax production). Like the Bushwhacks planting WMDs in Iraq, their instigation of the anthrax letters would likely be "over the top" as to utterly discrediting them before the world. I say "likely" advisedly. There doesn't seem to be anything these fuckwads did that disgraces them in our political establishment's eyes and imperils them with prosecution. However, back then, things were a bit tenser, and the Bushwhacks were more P.R. conscious, perhaps unsure how far they could go. When Kelly was found dead--very likely murdered (and covered up by the British government)--it was four days after Valerie Plame had been outed. His office and computers were searched and four days later Robert Novak additionally outed the entire Brewster-Jennings WMD counter-proliferation network!

Kelly wrote to Judith Miller on the day he died, expressing his concern--in rather terse terms (after her gushy email)--about "the many dark actors playing games." (She failed to disclose this email and her close connection to him in the obit she wrote about him for the NYT a few days later.)

Nobody was sure, in summer 2003, whether or not this government was going to go down the full nazi road. They were at the height of their power. They had just slaughtered 100,000 innocent people to steal their oil. Still, they were concerned enough about dissent to take on the CIA and out an agent and a whole project (not to mention a WMD counter-proliferation project) to suppress dissent (and likely for other reasons as well--for instance, to eliminate the worldwide network that was keeping eyes on the movement of WMDs, possibly for weapons profiteering purposes, or to try again to plant the WMDs in Iraq--the first plan having been foiled?). But I don't think that Kelly's comments on the exaggerated pre-war WMD intel (the "Dodgy Dossier") was sufficient motive for killing him. Most of the world was aware that there were no WMDs in Iraq anyway. However, exposure of their complicity in the anthrax letters would certainly be sufficient motive to murder Kelly. While our corpo-fascist media hardly blinked at the genocide in Iraq--in fact cheered it on--killing Americans with anthrax--if someone like Kelly had exposed it--might have turned them a bit green.

[Gregorian]

37. Thanks for that link.

I kept thinking about Ritter and Blix, and thinking that there had to be something more to the story, as they were all saying no WMD's.

When I watched the Hutton inquiry (I think that was it), Dr. Kelly was agitated and had a sense of urgency that made for a very frightening and dark affair. I knew something very serious was afloat as I watched that. He was dead shortly thereafter.

The dots are going to be connected, I believe.

[defendandprotect]

41. "...Kelly's own secret dealings in germ warfare with the apartheid regime in South Africa"...

EXCERPT ...
What are we to make of that --

And why would Kelly have trusted anyone like Judith Miller?

Dr Kelly was also intending to lift the lid on a potentially bigger scandal, his own secret dealings in germ warfare with the apartheid regime in South Africa.

US television investigators have spent four years preparing a 90-minute documentary, Anthrax War, suggesting there is a global black market in anthrax and exposing the mystery “suicides” of five government germ warfare scientists from around the world.

He wanted his story to come out



Director Bob Coen said: ‘‘The deeper you look into the murky world of governments and germ warfare, the more worrying it becomes.

“We have proved there is a black ­market in anthrax. David Kelly was of particular interest to us because he was a world expert on anthrax and he was involved in some degree with assisting the secret germ warfare programme in apartheid South Africa.”

http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/07/06/uk-weapons-inspector-dead-expose/

[AntiFascist]

43. This followed from Project Coast...

the anthrax, some of which was considered "stealth" so that it would be difficult to detect, was designed to target specific ethnic groups such as blacks, and later allegedly to be used targeting Arabs. It could be the Arab application that was the most dangerous revelation to those governments interested in targeting Arabs.

[defendandprotect]

63. And, we're to believe that there was no attempt to

kill blacks by those running the polio program in Africa from which we may

have gotten the HIV/AIDS thing going????

And since Bush's Crusade on the Middle East more than a million Arabs/Muslims dead -- !!!

Hard to think that we're not looking at a new Christian Crusade!!!

[AntiFascist]

65. Unfortunately the ongoing fight against AIDS....

has become a huge cash cow for some, so they are not likely to want to probe too deeply into the origins.

Fortunately, the anthrax cash cow never really got off the ground. Let's hope it stays that way.

[dixiegrrrrl]

58. Is this the documentary?

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Anthrax+War&search_type=&aq=f

[The Backlash Cometh]

36. I just don't see how any law that keeps the truth from the public

can be valid on ethical, moral or legal grounds. All it does is protect dangerous, incompetent or ruthless individuals. Those, we need to weed out.

[mistertrickster]

42. If he didn't have a back up plan to have this material come out "on the event of his death"

then he wasn't watching the movies that I watch . . .

[tomm2thumbs]

44. It has a Silkwood feeling to it

makes paranoid people feel justified when you hear these things.

(turning quickly to see if someone is behind me) :)

[conspirator]

45. The elite can now kill anyone they like in broad day light and no one will say anything

anyone who talks is labeled a conspiracy freak and the case is forgoten

[No Elephants]

51. "Elite" seems an odd word for murderers.

[redqueen]

56. Now? ... RFK? MLK?

Nothing new under the sun, I'm afraid.

[swilton]

53. It's not hard to connect the dots!

[Mrs. Overall]

59. There has always been something strange about Kelly's death and I remember

how his family spoke out after suicide was put forward as the cause.

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I think there is a string of deception that runs from Bush's 2000 election to 9/11 to Iraq and beyond and it involves the UK as well as the US.

I just hope the Obama and Brown do not hold back evidence and protect these criminals.

I get so angry just thinking about all of this.....grrrr.....

[LiberalFighter]

61. If only there was a way to exterminate all the political evil doers.

Senator Prescott Bush should had been the first to go when we had a chance.